A Brief 2013 Canon Roadmap [CR1]

[bchernicoff]

On the side note, This is post # 1337. 

Time to hack the Gibson.

[rpt]

Talking about lens caps was getting bit much.

Hey, at least the lens caps are real products, some of which are already available...   

True but if you can't have a decent brawl about DR what is the point? 

[rpt]

Even the lens caps have been beaten into dust in these forums.

Nikon's lens caps have on-latch ADCs and the springs are sourced from Sony, leading to much better quantum aural efficiency - Nikon's old caps are much less noisy than Canon's new caps.  C'mon, Canon...you've got some catching up to do!!!

Canon, if you are following us you can see that we need some new products or at least some vaporware

[AdamJ]

Even the lens caps have been beaten into dust in these forums.

Nikon's lens caps have on-latch ADCs and the springs are sourced from Sony, leading to much better quantum aural efficiency - Nikon's old caps are much less noisy than Canon's new caps.  C'mon, Canon...you've got some catching up to do!!!

While this thread remains refreshingly light-hearted, here's a sketch I thought you might like, Neuro.

Brain Surgeon - That Mitchell & Webb Look , Series 3 - BBC Two	Small | Large

[Zlatko]

lol yeah new technology for canon, ancient for other brands..

Can you please enlighten us as to what might be ancient technology for you? Are you talking about medium format or Nikon's D800? If yes, what's your point? Canon has been told not to push the megapixels for years. Nikon has been told to do the exact opposite. Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base.

Canon pushed the APS to 18Mp  years ago, they can expose a 18x24  cmos surface in one piece to an reasonable price=APS APS H
No, they have not the  sensor tech and the know how to make a 24x36mm sensor with high resolution and with a modern lay out  and to a competing low price.

"Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base"

What you base this statement on? People are asking after higher resolution from Canon and  a 24x36mm sensor.

Every time a higher megapixel camera is introduced, we see forum posts about the silliness of the "megapixel war" and how camera makers should really be focusing on improving other things, not "just" giving us more megapixels.  There are often comments about how megapixels are driven by marketing, not by photographers' demands.  A few years back, many photographers said that 8, 10 or 12mp was plenty for their work.  I remember a few photographers objecting the the original 12mp 5D as having "too many megapixels".  I know some who always shoot their 5D2 and 5D3 at the medium (10mp) raw file size.  No doubt Canon has listened to some of that; for example, they substantially upgraded the 5D2 to create the 5D3 without adding more megapixels.  The resulting 5D3 is for many photographers the dream version of the 5D2.

About the only thing I would like to see added to the "roadmap" is a new, improved 50mm f/1.4, sharper wide open and with more reliable AF.  I don't need more megapixels or a new sensor, at least not for my current work.  No doubt some Canon photographers do want more megapixels.  So I won't be surprised if Canon does introduce a high mp body to meet their needs.

[AprilForever]

My Roadmap:

With the new 18 micrometer (or whatnot) process, first, APS-C (according to Northlight):
7D MK II - 2 stop improved ISO, I stop better DR, better AF, all manner of other goodies

Then, wheedle that down to the rest ofthe mob, the 70D, the next rebel...

Then, with the process down, out comes the 42 mp camera everyone talks about. How do I know 42? Hitchhiker's Guide. It will basically replace the old 1DsIII.

At some point, they realize the madness of their ways and come our with a 1D mk IV replacement (for real, the 1DX isn't...). It could be APS-H, but I think it will be APS-C, and much like the 7D mk II, except more expensive and Uber.

And then the 7D mk III will come out, and all the rest of the photographic world will tremble!

[RGomezPhotos]

Gosh, I'm drooling at the notion of a 40+MP camera geared for studio from Canon.  As long as it's done right.

[rahkshi007]

For landscape photographer, i don't think they need 40mp, but really need great dynamic range.

[dolina]

When the 1DX came out I knew the camera wasn't a 1D4 replacement to me. It was a full frame body but did not increase or at least maintain the pixel density. It also lacked f/8 lens autofocus at the time as well.

This made the 5D3 look very competitive to me. But I have grown fond of 1-Series bodies so I kept to what I had.

I am looking towards Canon advancing from the 0.5 µm generation CIS wafer fab process so better bodies can be made.

But I encourage people to upgrade for the sake of upgrading.

lol yeah new technology for canon, ancient for other brands..

Can you please enlighten us as to what might be ancient technology for you? Are you talking about medium format or Nikon's D800? If yes, what's your point? Canon has been told not to push the megapixels for years. Nikon has been told to do the exact opposite. Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base.

Canon pushed the APS to 18Mp  years ago, they can expose a 18x24  cmos surface in one piece to an reasonable price=APS APS H
No, they have not the  sensor tech and the know how to make a 24x36mm sensor with high resolution and with a modern lay out  and to a competing low price.

"Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base"

What you base this statement on? People are asking after higher resolution from Canon and  a 24x36mm sensor.

Every time a higher megapixel camera is introduced, we see forum posts about the silliness of the "megapixel war" and how camera makers should really be focusing on improving other things, not "just" giving us more megapixels.  There are often comments about how megapixels are driven by marketing, not by photographers' demands.  A few years back, many photographers said that 8, 10 or 12mp was plenty for their work.  I remember a few photographers objecting the the original 12mp 5D as having "too many megapixels".  I know some who always shoot their 5D2 and 5D3 at the medium (10mp) raw file size.  No doubt Canon has listened to some of that; for example, they substantially upgraded the 5D2 to create the 5D3 without adding more megapixels.  The resulting 5D3 is for many photographers the dream version of the 5D2.

About the only thing I would like to see added to the "roadmap" is a new, improved 50mm f/1.4, sharper wide open and with more reliable AF.  I don't need more megapixels or a new sensor, at least not for my current work.  No doubt some Canon photographers do want more megapixels.  So I won't be surprised if Canon does introduce a high mp body to meet their needs.

[crasher8]

They haven't asked me but I'll still give my 2cents:

Get the 50mm for the masses up to speed. Build, USM and sharper wide open.

A couple more pancakes please. 22 f/2 or 1.8

7D2, just to end the waiting.

5D3 firmware in January, not April

14-24 2.8 L

update the 135 and 200 pipes

Weather Sealing on ALL L series lenses

[ScottyP]

How can there be another Rebel by March 2013??  The T4i just hit stores.

Hope instead it is both 7D and 70D??

[zim]

AdamJ - best laugh today thanks for that (I work with doctors and surgeons)

[Marsu42]

5D3 firmware in January, not April

Canon might fulfill your with and release it in Jan 2014 ... a slight delay is not unheard of :-p

Hope instead it is both 7D and 70D??

It would be surprising if Canon wouldn't release the more expensive 7d2 way before the tech trickles down to the 70d. But that way, 70d customers might get the fixes for problems that were discovered on the 7d2 :-> ... oh my, I am annoyed today, shouldn't have read about the 5d3 problems with low-light af :-o

[K-amps]

AdamJ - best laugh today thanks for that (I work with doctors and surgeons)

+1 .... I have a few "humble" doctor friends myself...

[scrup]

How about USB charging.

It mite take a while to charge the battery fully, but will make it better for travelling with a smaller adapter or using a smartphone adapter.