Quote from: Lee Jay on November 16, 2012, 09:09:06 AMIf Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?I would not worry about that.Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."
If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?
Quote from: Ricku on November 16, 2012, 09:37:13 AMQuote from: Lee Jay on November 16, 2012, 09:09:06 AMIf Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?I would not worry about that.Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."I don't really need more DR either (well, it's very rare that I do), but I would like cleaner images in the DR I currently have. Going all the way to the noise floor doesn't yield the cleanest images, while pushing the noise floor down would achieve much cleaner images in the area from the current noise floor up.
Quote from: Lee Jay on November 16, 2012, 09:41:30 AMQuote from: Ricku on November 16, 2012, 09:37:13 AMQuote from: Lee Jay on November 16, 2012, 09:09:06 AMIf Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?I would not worry about that.Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."I don't really need more DR either (well, it's very rare that I do), but I would like cleaner images in the DR I currently have. Going all the way to the noise floor doesn't yield the cleanest images, while pushing the noise floor down would achieve much cleaner images in the area from the current noise floor up.But that kinda means that you do want more DR. Getting cleaner results when pushing shadows = more DR. And I'm guessing you want Canon to get rid of their trademarked banding too.Nothing odd about that. It has been on my wishlist for 5 years now.
Yes, to get those cleaner images, I'd get more low-ISO DR for free. But there's really only one time I've wanted more base-ISO DR and in that particular case, I needed about 20 more stops, not a measly 2 stops more.
After their serious loss of market shares to Nikon in 2012, I expect Canon to return with a vengeance next year for their camera releases. If they still do not fix their sensor problems by 2013, they can kiss their no. 1 market share status goodbye forever.
Quote from: Woody on November 16, 2012, 10:24:49 AMAfter their serious loss of market shares to Nikon in 2012, I expect Canon to return with a vengeance next year for their camera releases. If they still do not fix their sensor problems by 2013, they can kiss their no. 1 market share status goodbye forever.Canon could hold off nikon if they release a stunning lens line-up too irresistible making Nikon's sensors irrelevant. Afterall, Canon has always bragged about their superior lens line-up.14-24L35L II50L II85L III135mm F/1.8L IS USM100-400L IIIf these lenses are released next year, I'll be very comfortable with canon.
A pro aimed EOS M would be nice. A 7D2 is way overdue. And the BIG MP camera will be here soon. Let's see some innovation canon.
The 7D2 is way over due only because of it's iso noise issue.