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houston1852:
I'm sure this has been covered a dozen times before but I'm really struggling to make a decision.  I want to upgrade from my T2I but I still plan on using it extensively.  I shoot mainly wildlife, old buildings, anything in nature.  I currently own a canon 10-22, 24-70v1, 100-400L and 1 of my favorites, the 100 macro.  I love the extended reach of having a crop sensor so I was leaning towards the 7D (although I do not shoot sports).  I think all of these lenses minus the 24/70 tell me to go 7D.  I think I would miss that extra reach if I went with the 5D2, but I do like the thought of better low light capabilities.  I feel I'm a little limited on the crop sensor with my 24-70 but I can always back up. I was discussing my dilemma with a friend and he suggested a 5D2 with a 1.4 extender.  Would that somewhat equal out the reach id be losing by switching to full frame?  I would love any help on this.

RLPhoto:
The 5D2 for wildlife is fine as long as it isn't birding but you will miss the extra reach. The 7D is a much better choice but I feel like its a bad time to buy a 7D. The 7D2 feels like its right around the corner and you could always make due with the t2i.

Marsu42:

--- Quote from: houston1852 on November 20, 2012, 03:29:20 PM ---I'm sure this has been covered a dozen times before

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Indeed ... but I can understand that these decisions are not easy so asking again is tempting :->

Except for absolutely stellar tele primes extenders are for occasional use and not for "always on" because they heavily depend on the iq of the base lens - the 100-400L isn't a promising choice for this and it'll be f8 which has af problems (I can tell, I've got the 70-300L which is sharper). That's why most budget wildlife shooters who want tracking and fast fps are on the 7d - the alternative is about $5000-$10000 more.

Upgrading from the 550d->7d with the same sensor also doesn't seem that smart to me unless you get a very good deal ... better wait for the 7d2 or 70d with probably a better sensor that'll solve your problem.

Btw: You should get a Kenko 1.4x anyway for even on crop, it's very nice on the macro :-)

neuroanatomist:

--- Quote from: Marsu42 on November 20, 2012, 03:44:08 PM ---Upgrading from the 550d->7d with the same sensor also doesn't seem that smart to me unless you get a very good deal ... better wait for the 7d2 or 70d with probably a better sensor that'll solve your problem.

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+1.

I'd also add that it's important to consider what you do with the images you capture.  Do you print them large?  Submit them to magazines or contests which have a minimum MP requirement for the final image?  Here's the thing...if you take an image with the same focal length and lens from the same distance with the 5DII vs. 7D, then crop the resulting 5DII image to the framing of the 7D, what you'll have is an image with IQ that's pretty much a wash with the 7D.  With minimal processing, the 7D image is a little sharper, the 5DII image has a little less noise - and of course, you can trade the sharpness for the noise and vice versa...a wash.  Thus, the main difference is that with the 7D you have 18 MP, and with the 5DII you have 8 MP.  If 8 MP is sufficient for your needs (~12x18 prints and smaller), then the 7D has no reach advantage.  Where the 7D does have an advantage over the 5DII is in AF performance and frame rate.  But...the 5DII will be slightly better than your T2i in terms of AF and frame rate.  If you don't need to crop the image, the 5DII will deliver much better IQ and much better high ISO performance.

So...I'd say ignore the crop factor 'reach'.  If the AF and frame rate of your T2i are good enough for your shooting, getting the 5DII is your best option.  But if you feel you'd benefit more from better AF and a faster frame rate, the 7D is great.

DCM1024:
I have previously owned the T2i (which I loved) and now own the 7D and 5D2. I found my 7D to be one stop better for ISO than the T2i, and would probably go with the 7D to get the faster frame rate for wildlife (or wait for a 7D2). I prefer my 5D2 to the 7D for the types of photos I shoot (portrait, boudoir, wedding plus some of 'whatever', but nothing requiring the FPS of AF capability of the 7D).

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