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« on: November 20, 2012, 06:39:05 PM »
Ok, so does anyone have any experience with getting used equipment from them.  I hesitate because rented stuff (e.g., cars) are usually not treated all that well, so what you usually get is some very beat up equipment that won't last as long.  I was hoping to get some feedback from the community as to whether this is an acceptable way of getting good equipment a little cheaper.
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« on: November 20, 2012, 06:39:05 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 07:02:00 PM »
Ok, so does anyone have any experience with getting used equipment from them.  I hesitate because rented stuff (e.g., cars) are usually not treated all that well, so what you usually get is some very beat up equipment that won't last as long.  I was hoping to get some feedback from the community as to whether this is an acceptable way of getting good equipment a little cheaper.

Your analogy is a little off. Late model rental cars tend to make more reliable used autos because they've been maintained routinely. It's in the rental companies' best interests to make sure their stuff is working properly and that everybody is happy. There's some competition in the business. If that's true for rental cars, I would think it's true for rental lenses also. Disclosure: I've never bought a rented lens. However, I've heard only good things about the company you mentioned. I'm renting a 135mm f/2 from them coming up, and this will be my first ever lens rental. I see that they have that same lens for sale for about 80% the cost of brand new, and that just might tempt me in the next year or so. Stay tuned for more details.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 07:09:57 PM »
If it's in their stock for 2 years they sell it.  Doesn't mean it was rented out and used every single day.  And a lot of the duration of that is shipping as well.  I'd think if anything they may see less use than used from a person.  I love the idea of buying from them and it's great how often that page updates with new stuff. 

I recently bought a used 24L from them.  On my 5D II I noticed I had bad side variance and sent it back.  They tweaked it a bit and I had the same problem.  It was then suggested maybe my body had a mount to sensor issue that needed fixed, but I could return it or whatever I wanted.  And I noticed this a bit after the initial allowed test days deal too.  I opted to just swap it for the Zeiss 21 and guess what, same thing on my camera.  So alllll that time it was my camera to blame.  They were as good as you could even hope for over it and it wasn't even their problem.   I don't think you can really go wrong there.  Lot easier dealing with a business too.  Don't like something you buy from some random person, eh they may not give you your money back. 

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 07:18:17 PM »
The lenses are heavily used, but well maintained.  Each lens goes thru a sharpness test when it comes back from a rental, and its pretty well checked out.
The lenses are going to have plenty of signs of a rough life, the paint will be scratched, and other cosmetic damage.
However, you will almost certainly get a lens in better working condition with no decentered elements than what you may get buying one from Craigslist.
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 07:22:25 PM »
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

True that, so I'll put my faith in a good compression test first.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 07:50:54 PM »
The lenses are heavily used, but well maintained.  Each lens goes thru a sharpness test when it comes back from a rental, and its pretty well checked out.
The lenses are going to have plenty of signs of a rough life, the paint will be scratched, and other cosmetic damage.
However, you will almost certainly get a lens in better working condition with no decentered elements than what you may get buying one from Craigslist.
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

I almost don't think "most" will have much sign of use.  2 years isn't long and their goal is renting stuff that is extremely new in appearance.  It appears they move their stuff out for sale well before it looks as though it's had a rough life.  You can look at the lens in larger pictures to see how much so anyway.  A 8.5 on there is really like new.  A truly well used looking lens, I don't know what they'd rate it on there.  It's hard to find anything that looks well used.  I think the average renter probably babies their rental afraid of causing damage they'll have to pay for. 

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 07:51:55 PM »
The lenses are heavily used, but well maintained.  Each lens goes thru a sharpness test when it comes back from a rental, and its pretty well checked out.
The lenses are going to have plenty of signs of a rough life, the paint will be scratched, and other cosmetic damage.
However, you will almost certainly get a lens in better working condition with no decentered elements than what you may get buying one from Craigslist.
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

+1....cosmetic damages, marks, and scratches on "L" lens = no buy for me(even though the lens passed all functional test). Unless the sale price is 50% off.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 07:58:42 PM »
Ok, so does anyone have any experience with getting used equipment from them.  I hesitate because rented stuff (e.g., cars) are usually not treated all that well, so what you usually get is some very beat up equipment that won't last as long.  I was hoping to get some feedback from the community as to whether this is an acceptable way of getting good equipment a little cheaper.

I have rented lenses from Lens Rentals 5 or 6  times, and a camera once.  Each and every time the equipment I received was in good working order, and that is the same equipment you are buying.

I know they test each lens after every rental, and keep things maintained, sending lenses to Canon for repair if needed.  They aren't dumping junk, the lenses they sell are in good shape.

I purchased a 70-200 f/2.8 IS from them and had no problems.  They do offer a 3 day inspection period with no questions asked return - but you don't get reimbursed for the shipping.  Also, they warranty the lens for 90 days.  So there is very little risk.

The company is honest and excellent to work with.  They will answer any questions about the history of a specific lens.  They told me the one I bought had been to Canon to fix an AF problem, so I knew what I was getting.

I don't think their normal used prices are much better than you would get elsewhere, but at least you know you are buying from a company that will stand behind their product and will want to make things right if there is an issue.  With the 10% off Black Friday sale, I think their used stuff is a good deal.

If they have something you need or want, I wouldn't hesitate to do business with them.

I know this sounds like a comercial, but there aren't many companies that treat the customer the way they do.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2012, 08:45:07 PM »
I have enjoyed my purchase from LR (85mm f/1.8 USM in 7.0/10 condition).  Better condition than any body or lens I've ever purchased through Craigslist or eBay.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2012, 09:30:44 PM »
1st - see my sig.  I've rented and purchased from them for multiple years.  Stuff in my box I purchased used from them includes 100-400L, 17-40L, 17-55efs plus an 8" LCD for video work.  Rented primes, zooms, big whites and recently a body (5d3 twice).  Also purchased a 24-105L but returned it - more because I decided against it than a lens issue.  Very honest to condition of lens - scratches and all.

Lens Lotto should be happening soon.  They treat their gear like I treat mine - love it, care for it, but use it.  Constantly checking each lens before and after each rental.  Will ship stuff off that they can't repair in house. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 09:59:14 PM »
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

True that, so I'll put my faith in a good compression test first.
How do you compress a transmission, or air conditioner or onboard computer/  In the old days, a compression test could pretty much tell the issues.
Nowdays, you can't even pull the plugs to test compression with removing half the stuff covering the engine.  The readouts from the computer are about all you have, and they don't tell you if a car was severely abused.  They do have memory devices that record the last XX hours of operation, but only a dealer can access them.
 

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 10:49:51 PM »

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Compression test???

That gave me a good laugh. Surely, you must be from a different Century! Let's change those points, plugs and condenser while we're at it. Maybe look at the generator brushes too.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 11:26:32 PM »
Ok, so does anyone have any experience with getting used equipment from them.  I hesitate because rented stuff (e.g., cars) are usually not treated all that well, so what you usually get is some very beat up equipment that won't last as long.  I was hoping to get some feedback from the community as to whether this is an acceptable way of getting good equipment a little cheaper.

I've purchased a used Canon 24 TSE MK II from them.  The price was very fair, the lens was in better shape than I had expected and they promptly and patiently answered all the questions I had prior to purchase.  Highly recommended.

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 11:26:32 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2012, 12:14:05 AM »
The lenses are heavily used, but well maintained.  Each lens goes thru a sharpness test when it comes back from a rental, and its pretty well checked out.
The lenses are going to have plenty of signs of a rough life, the paint will be scratched, and other cosmetic damage.
However, you will almost certainly get a lens in better working condition with no decentered elements than what you may get buying one from Craigslist.
As to rental cars, rental companies have been recently cited over and over for not incorporating safety recalls, and they likely scrimp on maintenance.  I'd pass on a used rental car, even though most probably will last for many years.

+1....cosmetic damages, marks, and scratches on "L" lens = no buy for me(even though the lens passed all functional test). Unless the sale price is 50% off.

They have many lenses in perfect cosmetic and functional condition, and they exhaustively test each one between every rental. Any lens found to be outside of their acceptable performance range is repaired in-house or sent back to the manufacturer. I wish I had the resources to take care of my gear that well.

examples of perfect/near-perfect lenses for sale, among many others:
http://www.lensrentals.com/buy/canon/canon-135mm-f2l-serial-number-179315
http://www.lensrentals.com/buy/canon/canon-8-15mm-f4-l-fisheye-serial-number-7800001067

edit: from the ratings on these lenses, you can also see how they almost always purposely underrate the condition to ensure no chance of the buyer receiving a lens in worse condition than expected.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2012, 08:30:58 AM »
...they exhaustively test each one between every rental.
+1 and that includes the retired rentals that are up for sale.  Read any of Roger's articles on lens testing and you'll know the pains they go through to ensure happy customers and consistent operation from all their equipment.
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