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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2013, 01:17:00 AM »
LOVE 'EM! :)
Just started playing with a small variety of old primes and a couple zooms in M42 on a crop body so no mirror-strike worries.
the super smooth feel, and every one has an interesting character that will lend itself to certain kinds of shots.
prices are rising tho, as everyone hops on board the oldies train.

favorite so far is also the SMC 50/1.8 but looking forward to trying a Mamiya that's still on its way to me.
Haven't take the Helios 44-2 outside yet.
Was quite surprised to see just how well the old SMC performs, very sharp, good contrast characteristics and nice bokeh.  I wonder if new Pentax glass performs as well?
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2013, 01:24:53 PM »
I finally just bought the Helios 44-2! I was looking for one in perfect condition from a trusted seller, so it took me a while to choose. I'm definitely looking forward to try it! If anybody's interested, I could post test shots whenever I receive it (I guess the ride from Ukraine to Québec might take a while). Thanks for the great advices on previous posts!
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2013, 02:23:36 PM »
I finally just bought the Helios 44-2! I was looking for one in perfect condition from a trusted seller, so it took me a while to choose. I'm definitely looking forward to try it! If anybody's interested, I could post test shots whenever I receive it (I guess the ride from Ukraine to Québec might that a while). Thanks for the great advices on previous posts!

Would love to see your shots.  It is a very unique lens.
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2013, 10:05:53 PM »
I finally just bought the Helios 44-2! I was looking for one in perfect condition from a trusted seller, so it took me a while to choose. I'm definitely looking forward to try it! If anybody's interested, I could post test shots whenever I receive it (I guess the ride from Ukraine to Québec might that a while). Thanks for the great advices on previous posts!

Would love to see your shots.  It is a very unique lens.

I've also just picked up an MC Helios 44M-4, which should be sharper than the 44-2 according to the Zenit website (you don't have to read russian, just google translate, or look for the line "MC Гелиос-44М-4 — 41/20 линий/мм", which means MC Helios 44M-4 has 41 Line Pairs per mm in the centre, 20 on the edge, better than non-MC 44-2 at 38/20. And before anyone asks, the much-better 44-7 is rarer and more expensive).

So one day when I get time (in a few months, if that), I'll do a proper scientific comparison between my:
Takumar 55/2.0
Takumar 55/1.8
Takumar 50/1.4
FL 55/1.2
OM 50/2.5 Macro
MC Helios 44M-4
EF 50/1.8 II
EFs 15-85 @ 50mm
(maybe the Shorty Forty?)
(maybe Zeiss 50/4.0 in Pentacon Six? Or Mamiya645 45/2.8 C?)

But until then I'll just keep shooting in the real world and comparing them that way...
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2013, 08:41:52 PM »
I finally got my Helios 44-2!  ;D
First impression: The lens is smaller and lighter that what I would have though. It is all made of metal and really feel solid. The focus ring is about 270°, allowing slower but more precise focusing. As strange as it might sound, it seems that the aperture values are put backward; at f/16, the aperture is wide open and at f/2, it is closed. I am quite happy to see that the lens itself is in perfect condition; barely any sign of use on the barrel, the glass elements are perfect, the aperture is smooth and oil-free. Although the lens is a bit less sharp than I excepted, though I haven't done any formal testing so I might be surprise later, the result it gives are stunning. It is reasonably sharp, the CA is reasonably well controlled, but the color and image rendition is unique and lovely. The bokeh is nothing short of amazing IMO. The photos I took with it really have a unique feel to them. To me, in a modern photographer bag, this lens is a wonderful tool. Of course, performance-wise, it is out-classed by modern standard lens (though I only have significant first-hand experience with the Sigma 50mm f/1.4), but I consider it more like a speciality lens, a bit like a fish-eye. It might not be your everyday use, walk-around lens, but it is definitely give unique image than no other lens I know can do.
Conclusion: Highly recommended!  :D
P.s: I attached a picture I took to show the unique bokeh rendition of the Helios 44-2. Not my best photo artisticly-wise, but still, I guess it make it point.
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2013, 11:23:40 AM »
Here's one from the SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8.  Brought it out this last weekend and was again reminded what a great little lens it is:


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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2013, 10:34:20 AM »
Here's another beauty from the SMC 55mm


Intimate World by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2013, 08:18:58 AM »
Here's another from the 55mm f/1.8


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2013, 10:39:17 AM »
My first SLR, purchased in 1973 or 1974, was a Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic and over the years I acquired 4 wonderful Takumar lenses: 28mm, 55mm, 105mm, and a 200mm. I sold everything a few years ago. I loved that camera and set of lenses, but I had switched to Canon some years before and I had no idea there were lens adaptors for my Canon DSLR. The Takumar lenses, despite extensive use over almost 30 years, were in excellent condition. (This was in part due to the fact that in those days, when you bought a lens, it came with a really nice hard case with leather exterior and velvet lined interior.) Hopefully, whoever bought my lenses will enjoy and appreciate them as much as I did.

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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2013, 09:46:52 AM »
Dustin, that Takumar 55 1.8 images make me curious. Tell me, do I also get mirror problems with that lens, so that the mirror hits the back of the lens?
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2013, 10:48:40 AM »
Dustin, that Takumar 55 1.8 images make me curious. Tell me, do I also get mirror problems with that lens, so that the mirror hits the back of the lens?

No, Florien.  Part of the reason that I went with the 55mm f/1.8 instead of the 50mm f/1.4 is because the 55 works perfectly on a full frame body.  It has very few of the optical imperfections you associate with older lenses.
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« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2013, 11:08:36 AM »
Well okay, that's nice, I modified the old 50 1.4 to work with my 5D Mark III without hitting the mirror but I don't own it anymore. But I have seen the 55 1.8 is only around 60€ here so I got one off ebay with minimal dust inside, I think there's a M42 adapter still flying around here so I thought I'd give it a shot! Your shots with that thing certainly make me curious.
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« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2013, 12:31:21 PM »
The Helios produces the most unique bokeh of any lens I have used and is also very sharp wide open.  It is also quite versatile, because stopped down it has less "character" and just becomes a sharp prime.  Color rendering has a Zeiss quality.  Considering I got mine for $25 shipped from Russia, it is also an amazing value.  It is an awesome portrait lens.

I was asking myself why the Helios 44-2 was your favorite, so I tried getting more information.
I saw some photos with magnificent vortex-like bokeh and can barely believe a f/2 lens can produce it.


If you like the look of the Helios lenses, you might also like the Carl Zeiss Biotars.  I think there is something of a chicken vs the egg debate about the Helios and the Biotar (what I have read makes me think that the Zeiss came first), but they are definitely related and have similar looks.

My apologies to the OP for prolonging the Helios sidebar....

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« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2013, 01:21:58 PM »
The Helios 44-2 you are all talking about is that 44-2 58mm 2.0 lens, right?
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« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2013, 02:45:08 PM »
So would anyone happen to have instruction showing how to disassemble the lens to clean the dust out of the inside?
Sorry, found some instructions (Just need to use the correct search string).
Cheers Brian
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