Sounds like a release analogous to the 600 - a 450EX-RT released in some markets, and a 450EX also release in certain markets due to restrictions around RF frequency usage. As was pointed out above (several times), the 600 flash exists in both an -RT and a non-radio version, although the latter is not available in all markets.
April 20, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
Topic: The Future Speedlites, Not Far Off Now? [CR2] (Read 8806 times)
unfocused
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Ordinarily I am very forgiving of Canon. They have a business to run and their profits help create products that I want.
But, the abandonment of the 580EXII was very unprofessional in my opinion. This was a strobe marketed to and used by professionals (which I am not). To release the 600 EX and transmitter without releasing a backward compatible receiver was an unconscionable disservice to the many professionals who invested in multiple 580s.
In addition, though, it was probably very bad business on their part as I am sure, even as I write this, Yongnuo and others are reverse engineering the strobe and transmitter and preparing a receiver for the 580EX (At least I hope they are doing that).
But, the abandonment of the 580EXII was very unprofessional in my opinion. This was a strobe marketed to and used by professionals (which I am not). To release the 600 EX and transmitter without releasing a backward compatible receiver was an unconscionable disservice to the many professionals who invested in multiple 580s.
In addition, though, it was probably very bad business on their part as I am sure, even as I write this, Yongnuo and others are reverse engineering the strobe and transmitter and preparing a receiver for the 580EX (At least I hope they are doing that).
Daniel Flather
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The manuals that came with my 600RTs clearly states that a non-radio version model is in production.
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I wonder what the 600EX without the RT would do to the price of the current 580EX IIs on the market.
The 600EX-RT and 580EX II are only $10-20 apart at the moment.
The 600EX-RT and 580EX II are only $10-20 apart at the moment.
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...the abandonment of the 580EXII was very unprofessional in my opinion...To release the 600 EX and transmitter without releasing a backward compatible receiver was an unconscionable disservice to the many professionals who invested in multiple 580s...
That is a ridiculously uninformed and inaccurate statement to make. The 600EX-RT is fully backwards compatible with all previous Canon Speedlites and maintains full functionality with all the features the legacy gear had, the feature set on which they were sold at the time. It has added a complete new feature set, but it has not abandoned the old one.
If you are going to flame someone, at least have the decency to read their post. I clearly stated that Canon has not produced a RECEIVER that is backwards compatible for the 580EXII.
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I think the point is that the 580EX II can already receive from (and transmit to) a 600EX-RT, using optical triggering. I see your point regarding the ST-E3-RT, but not the 600EX-RT. With the new flash, Canon offered good backward compatibility, not abandonment.
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Alex
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I wish instead of bringing out new flashguns they would bring out a receiver unit for the ST-E3-RT to make the 580's compatible...
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I think the point is that the 580EX II can already receive from (and transmit to) a 600EX-RT, using optical triggering. I see your point regarding the ST-E3-RT, but not the 600EX-RT. With the new flash, Canon offered good backward compatibility, not abandonment.
Yes, I have no problem with the 600EX-RT. My complaint is that Canon elected to produce a transmitter, but has yet to produce a receiver and does not appear inclined to do so.
Given that we are talking about customers who invested in the flagship strobe at the time (and often invested in multiple units), it is unprofessional of Canon to treat their top customers in this way. Keep in mind too, that a receiver is hardly a difficult product to produce, as many third-party manufacturers have shown.
I wish instead of bringing out new flashguns they would bring out a receiver unit for the ST-E3-RT to make the 580's compatible...
Exactly.