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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2012, 11:35:00 AM »
If you look at your needs/desires as stated, you are more interested in portrature, with some sports.  A full frame would be the better bet.  If you are primarily interested in sports/wildlife, the 7DII (depending on specs) would be the way to go.  I have the 5D3 and haven't followed the 6D so can't comment.

I would also advise against being first adopter.  You get bragging rights and the undiscovered problems that go with it.  Plus, price will drop if you wait a few months.


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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 11:38:51 AM »
If you are not missing (too many) shots, I'd say wait till the summer. Patience and procrastination pays!

Especially procrastination :)

Soccer is tough to shoot even with an effective focal length of 200mm.  It is sometimes tough even with my 300mm lens.  However, if you're not doing it much, and your main focus (gosh I crack myself up) is candids and portraits of your girls, then I would personally go FF and shoot RAW.  Those photos are priceless, and you can't get them back.  Each day is a day farther away from when they were that age.
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 12:50:48 PM »
If you are not missing (too many) shots, I'd say wait till the summer. Patience and procrastination pays!

Especially procrastination :)

Soccer is tough to shoot even with an effective focal length of 200mm.  It is sometimes tough even with my 300mm lens.  However, if you're not doing it much, and your main focus (gosh I crack myself up) is candids and portraits of your girls, then I would personally go FF and shoot RAW.  Those photos are priceless, and you can't get them back.  Each day is a day farther away from when they were that age.

+1....I have a 4yrs daughter. Last week she did a ballet recital with her class mates on stage. I carried 24-70 and 70-200 with me. I only have one 5D and decided to stay with 24-70 for wider shots. Her performance was 3mins long, there was no time to switch lenses. Moments like this, I wish for 2nd body to mount my 70-200.

Hope BH & Adoroma will have some deals on 5D III this coming X-mas. If the price is around $2500 - $2700, I get another one.

Like you said "Those photos are priceless, and you can't get them back"

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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 07:14:50 PM »
I think you are correct that I would be a perfect candidate for FF.  I have almost no interest in wildlife unless it is kind enough to land on my patio for easy shooting.  Not too serious in the sports either.  What I do shoot is my kids, and often indoors with less than perfect light, and I don't like to mess with flash when I can avoid it.

I also like the idea of keeping the T3i and even using 2 bodies at the same time.  I would, however, probably sell the 17-55 if I got a FF with a 24-105 or 24-70.

I very, very nearly bought a 5D3 during the Monday sales a couple weeks ago.  The one thing that stopped me was a.)  wondering if the 6D could do the job just fine, and b.)  worrying what the heck is the deal with 5D3 focusing in low light?

Has a consensus been reached on that 5D3 AF assist lag question?  Some say it is the somewhat weak AF beam on 580 and 600 speedlites, but others say it is bad with the 430's too.  Some say a Chinese speedlite may (will?) fix the problem.  Some suggest you ignore focus confirmation and just mash the shutter button all the way.  No one seems to be sure a firmware fix could do anything or not.  Still others say they don't even notice a problem, or that maybe there is only a "bad batch" of bodies out there.

Has anyone specifically tested the 6D for af-assisted focuing speed?  Can anyone say for sure it is faster with AF assist than the 5D3 or not?
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 12:05:29 PM »
There is a very good chance that the 7DII will be announced in January or February next year.
If you can wait that long, you will be able to make a more informed decision.

So... Even the potential announcement is a rumor ... that means canon will have it soon on shelves in 2014... and  he can have those awesome pictures in time for christmas sometime-to-be  :D
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 12:11:29 PM »
Especially procrastination :)
I am a fan of that. It saved me money...



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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2012, 12:11:52 PM »
Wait for 5D4 imo.  ;D

But seriously. Nikon's success with the exmor sensor has forced Canon's hand.

Canon's new sensor tech is just around the corner, which means that the 5D3 will get a very short race, and be replaced by the 5D4 sooner than later.

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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2012, 12:17:46 PM »
Wait for 5D4 imo.  ;D
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And then I woke up..

I am surprised it wasnt 5D5 :p
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2012, 10:57:34 AM »
5Diii, deffo

5Diii! it's mental off the rails. I had this issue last week, played with the 6D and 5Diii for a bit and I've never known anything like it. it's totally rad! I use a 1Ds mkiii at work and the 5Diii blows that MF out of the water on everything from handling to IQ. I can't believe I never got one before like 10 years ago...

for serous though, if it's not going to totally smash the bank, go for the 5Diii. you might be missing the WiFi thing but for everything else it's bonkers.
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2012, 11:20:19 AM »
If you are shooting portraits of you kids, why the sweat over high ISO?  You will get great results from anywhere between 100 and 400 ISO.  Unless you are an equipment junky, do not upgrade just to get super high ISO camera functions, unless you want to shoot in the dark!  :)

You are right about the full frame being better.  Due to the larger area, the pixels are larger and they can gather more light, with results in lower noise problems.  I have a 5D Mk II, and I love it, because I keep it
within its performance boundaries.  Great pics.

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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2012, 02:47:13 PM »
Adcom used to have a Print ad: and one is reminded of it:

"Good things come to those who wait"

You cannot go wrong by waiting till march next year. The 7Dii will be great, but if they up the MP on it, then the ISO might not see a marked improvement (as you might get from the 6D).

Just wait and see how it plays out.
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2012, 03:07:32 PM »

Hope BH & Adoroma will have some deals on 5D III this coming X-mas. If the price is around $2500 - $2700, I get another one.


Dylan... if you have $2600 spare... perhaps you might consider the 7Dii (instead of a 5diii) as a second body... your 70-200 will get more reach.
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 05:32:21 PM »

Hope BH & Adoroma will have some deals on 5D III this coming X-mas. If the price is around $2500 - $2700, I get another one.


Dylan... if you have $2600 spare... perhaps you might consider the 7Dii (instead of a 5diii) as a second body... your 70-200 will get more reach.

Hi K-AMP,
How are you? Buying any new toys lately?

7D II, crop will help in reach and fps. However, I care more about IQ under low light. I'm not a big fan of flash photography.

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Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 05:36:33 PM »
I'm not a big fan of flash photography.

Personally, I'm a big fan of flash photography, but in a way you cannot or can only barely see there was artificial light involved - and to let the background meld with the lit object high iso capability is important as well.

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 05:36:33 PM »