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History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« on: December 09, 2012, 12:14:33 AM »
Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x
We posted about the FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x lens, which was the first Canon lens to have a built in teleconverter. I was having a hard time find a photograph of one, and apparently only 5 of these lenses were ever made and never went to production.

Thankfully, Phil from Australia scanned and sent us some images of said lens in action. These images are from the Easter Bike Races in Bathurst, Australia. Canon Australia had one ”on loan for a few years”, until EOS was launched in 1987 and these lenses became EF mount without the 1.4 teleconverter.

Thanks Phil

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History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 12:23:18 AM »
I wonder whether the video head and tripod legs weighed as much as the 1200mm!
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 01:10:38 AM »
It's interesting the size of the bulge on the teleconverter, looking at that I can see how the converter could easily be moved out of the way. Anyone know how it works internally on the new 200-400? That's quite small by comparison but I thought being at the rear the teleconverter elements would have to be about the same for any focal length.

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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 01:44:11 AM »
It's interesting the size of the bulge on the teleconverter, looking at that I can see how the converter could easily be moved out of the way. Anyone know how it works internally on the new 200-400? That's quite small by comparison but I thought being at the rear the teleconverter elements would have to be about the same for any focal length.

Uh, what? The 200-400 has a similar bulge, and it apparently drew the ire of Canon's testers, according to a previous post here.

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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 08:25:09 AM »
I posted an image from the 1984 LA Olympics in the forum a few weeks ago that has two FD 1200mm lenses in it.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11025.msg197916#msg197916

I guess I should have searched here. :)
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 09:29:03 AM »
It's interesting the size of the bulge on the teleconverter, looking at that I can see how the converter could easily be moved out of the way. Anyone know how it works internally on the new 200-400? That's quite small by comparison but I thought being at the rear the teleconverter elements would have to be about the same for any focal length.

Uh, what? The 200-400 has a similar bulge, and it apparently drew the ire of Canon's testers, according to a previous post here.

I think he means the bulge on the 200-400 is significantly smaller, and it is.  If you picture a whole 1.4X converter swapping in and out, you would need a big bulge.  But of course most of a normal 1.4X is just the lens tube, the structure that holds the camera and larger lens.  The actual glass elements are way smeller.

But how about this? I don't want to see pictures of this lens.  I want to see pictures taken with this lens!  And good photos.  Not pictures of NY city buildings taken from across the river.  Show me some of those sports pics this lens was supposedly used for.  NASA rockets going up? Let me see.  Spy photos?  Sure, why not.


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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 10:34:16 AM »
It's interesting the size of the bulge on the teleconverter, looking at that I can see how the converter could easily be moved out of the way. Anyone know how it works internally on the new 200-400? That's quite small by comparison but I thought being at the rear the teleconverter elements would have to be about the same for any focal length.

Uh, what? The 200-400 has a similar bulge, and it apparently drew the ire of Canon's testers, according to a previous post here.

I think he means the bulge on the 200-400 is significantly smaller, and it is.  If you picture a whole 1.4X converter swapping in and out, you would need a big bulge.  But of course most of a normal 1.4X is just the lens tube, the structure that holds the camera and larger lens.  The actual glass elements are way smeller.

But how about this? I don't want to see pictures of this lens.  I want to see pictures taken with this lens!  And good photos.  Not pictures of NY city buildings taken from across the river.  Show me some of those sports pics this lens was supposedly used for.  NASA rockets going up? Let me see.  Spy photos?  Sure, why not.

I'm searching for some, the lens is so rare that photos seem to be too.
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 01:47:34 PM »
Awesome!  Hope that did not come across as criticism.  Just me really wanting to see what this lens can do.  Really appreciate the info and pictures found so far.

I wonder about he use of this lens for sports.  I know shooting from the end zone at a football game, my 400mm f2.8 seems to be pretty long.  I do alternate between a FF and 7D, and used to own a 1D4.  I will sometimes drop in my 1.4X or 2X, but rarely get any keepers.  Of course i can go up in the top row of stands with the teleconverters, and they d better up there.  And there is always the "headshot" of the coach or key player from across the field...

The Sigma 200-500 f2.8 seems to suffer from the same malady.  It's easy to find photos of it.  Not easy to find pictures taken with it, except corny "review" pictures.

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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 04:25:45 PM »
But how about this? I don't want to see pictures of this lens.  I want to see pictures taken with this lens!  And good photos.  Not pictures of NY city buildings taken from across the river.  Show me some of those sports pics this lens was supposedly used for.  NASA rockets going up? Let me see.  Spy photos?  Sure, why not.

I'm searching for some, the lens is so rare that photos seem to be too.

Yeah, it's kinda hard searching for photos in the days before EXIF (and especially when it was the subject that counted, not many people went around advertising what lens they used...)
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 05:38:10 PM »
Doing some Google searching I found that another company (rhymes with Flycon) has/had a similar lens.  The explanation of why the lens was made is interesting.

http://www.nikon.com/about/feelnikon/recollections/r16_e/index.htm

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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2012, 10:34:47 PM »
Does that mean the EF models don't have a 1.4x built-in teleconverter?

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2012, 01:55:04 AM »
I have the EF 1200 mm f/5.6 lens an I can confirm that the lens don´t have a build in TC.

Only the FDn 1200 mm f/5.6 lens have a built in 1.4X TC.

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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2012, 06:03:36 AM »
I have the EF 1200 mm f/5.6 lens an I can confirm that the lens don´t have a build in TC.

Only the FDn 1200 mm f/5.6 lens have a built in 1.4X TC.
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2012, 06:03:43 AM »
I have the EF 1200 mm f/5.6 lens an I can confirm that the lens don´t have a build in TC.

Only the FDn 1200 mm f/5.6 lens have a built in 1.4X TC.

Can you share pictures of it and taken with it?
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Re: History Lesson: Canon FDn 1200 f/5.6L 1.4x Lens Images
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2012, 06:03:43 AM »