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Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« on: December 09, 2012, 06:47:49 AM »
I have recently added the 24-70mm f2.8L II, and I am considering droping my 16-35mm f2.8L II for a prime of around 18-21mm to save a bit of weight and space.

The Canon 20mm f2.8 is awful, but there is nothing else, why such a big gap in Canon's range.

I think my options are the Zeiss 18mm f3.5 or the Canon TSE 17mm.  Of the two the Zeiss would be smaller and lighter.  But looking at 'The Digital Picture' site the Zeiss appears to be slightly worse than my 16-35mm.  If I change I want at least equal optical quality, preferably better.
Are there any other suggestions?

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Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« on: December 09, 2012, 06:47:49 AM »

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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 11:58:29 AM »
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 12:20:14 PM »
If you are not scared of a manual lens, you should consider the Samyang 14mm 2.8, it offers exceptional image and build quality and is dirt cheap compared to the few competitors. Mind that it has strange contortions so you probably want to use Photoshop or Lightroom with the lens correction profiles available through Adobes Profile Downloader. Just an idea even if you were looking for some mm more.
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 12:43:23 PM »
There is 24mm 1.4L prime and 8-15mm L fisheye.
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 12:48:49 PM »
TS 17mm, best there is!
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 12:55:35 PM »
Per your title, theres the EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM.

My next prime will be the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II.

Both are L primes between 14 and 24mm and are as great as any.

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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 12:56:11 PM »
Canon does have a fair contender with  EF 14mm II with which you get to retain autofocus, albeit the price bites. 17 TS-E is another option from canon, although price again doesn't compete with samyang which can be had for about ~$375...But IQ is far superior with the TS-E. The mustache distortion in samyang can be corrected apparently with lens profile feature in LR4. Both 17 TS-E and samyang let's keep in mind are manual only.

Zeiss is another option but you go manual again at a fairly high price here as well. And I wouldn't call any of these primes (barring the samyang) as truly a small, lightweight prime option against the 16-35 II. Some are like little tanks, especially the CZ makes.

Life is full of compromises in the EF land, that's what makes it exiting :).

Edit: exciting I meant :)
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 01:00:49 PM »
14 and 24 are not in between 14 and 24....
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 01:12:45 PM »
14 and 24 are not in between 14 and 24....

Yes, but The 17 TS-E from canon and the two from Zeiss (18mm and 21mm) fit the pedantic bracket focal lengths. I am sure others may exist in sigma land of which I know too little.
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 01:36:41 PM »
Agreed, the 17mm TS-E is too heavy, bulky and expensive, the front lens is very exposed, you cannot filter it and most people don't care about TS functions.

I have one, love it, but cannot recommend it for general photography, it's too much of a specialized tool.

It's time Canon's refreshes the old 20mm f2.8 and adds a 17mm f2.8 USM for half the price of the 17 TS-E.

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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 01:42:09 PM »
Canon does have a fair contender with  EF 14mm II with which you get to retain autofocus, albeit the price bites. 17 TS-E is another option from canon, although price again doesn't compete with samyang which can be had for about ~$375...But IQ is far superior with the TS-E. The mustache distortion in samyang can be corrected apparently with lens profile feature in LR4. Both 17 TS-E and samyang let's keep in mind are manual only.

Zeiss is another option but you go manual again at a fairly high price here as well. And I wouldn't call any of these primes (barring the samyang) as truly a small, lightweight prime option against the 16-35 II. Some are like little tanks, especially the CZ makes.

Life is full of compromises in the EF land, that's what makes it exiting :).

I trust that that was meant to read exciting and that you're not looking to acquire some Nikon glass.  ;)
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2012, 02:08:40 PM »
14 and 24 are not in between 14 and 24....

Yes, but The 17 TS-E from canon and the two from Zeiss (18mm and 21mm) fit the pedantic bracket focal lengths. I am sure others may exist in sigma land of which I know too little.

Also the 15mm Zeiss..
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2012, 02:30:17 PM »

Life is full of compromises in the EF land, that's what makes it exiting :).

I trust that that was meant to read exciting and that you're not looking to acquire some Nikon glass.  ;)

Indeed! Autocorrect feature is a mixed blessing on mobile devices :)
As for going Nikon... *gag*   :o
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2012, 02:36:07 PM »
It's time Canon's refreshes the old 20mm f2.8 and adds a 17mm f2.8 USM for half the price of the 17 TS-E.

If Canon made a 17mm f/2.8, it'd be more than half the price.

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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2012, 02:42:21 PM »
14 and 24 are not in between 14 and 24....

Thread says from 14 to 24 not "between".

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Re: Why no L primes from 14 to 24mm
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2012, 02:42:21 PM »