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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2012, 01:16:52 PM »
I agree with the multiple users suggesting the t3i, and t4i. Sure the kit lenses aren't the sharpest things in the world from a professional standpoint, but these are extremely capable cameras (& lenses) that can get great results for plenty of people. Technology keeps getting better and better but people seem to often forget that these "entry level" DSLRs are much more powerful than the professional ones not that long ago.

I say get a t3i or t4i kit package, and when you're in a better place financially start upgrading lenses.

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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2012, 01:57:21 PM »
What about a Tamron 28-75mm 2.8?  Or a Canon 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM or 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5?

The Tamron would cost less than a Canon 24-105mm (albeit with less range and a larger aperture).  The Canon lenses are essentially f/4 and have reasonable build quality, real USM, and can be picked up used for $200 or less.  They won't have the image quality as the 24-105, but then again neither will any crop camera with anything except a 17-55mm f/2.8.

I say keep the 5D2 and 50mm f/1.8 II and spend a couple hundred on some cheap discontinued model lenses.  I picked up my Tamron 19-35mm for $90 (although I think it normally goes for $100-125, I just got a good deal on eBay), my 28-105mm was $110, and 70-210mm was $140.  So my 3 zooms put together was only $340.  I think that's a heck of a kit for less than half of the lowest price L lens.  I can't justify putting hundreds of dollars into each lens for my hobby, and I'm ok with the image quality of the lenses I have (althought, the 70-210mm is a little disappointing at 210mm).  Its has taken me quite some time to put my whole kit together, but I'm constantly looking for good deals on used stuff to add to it without breaking the bank.

EDIT: Additionally, the Canon 20-35mm f/3.5-4.5 USM normally goes for $160-200 on eBay for the wide end when you want to continue shooting landscapes, etc.
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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2012, 03:01:00 PM »
In a similar situation, I would (probably) replace all my DSLR gear with something like PowerShot G1 X.
Or, if the situation was temporary (like 3 to 6 month), then I'd keep the 5D2 with 50/1.8II.
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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2012, 12:58:19 PM »
I know this is a few days old, but I wanted to weigh in with my thoughts as a new parent.  Obviously nobody knows your financial situation, and you can't choose photography over diapers, but I wouldn't unload my gear just yet.  If you love taking pictures, you're going to love taking pictures of your baby.  In months three through six, I downloaded about 1,000 frames off all of our cameras.  If I had unloaded my gear or downgraded before the baby came, it would be the single biggest regret of my parenting career.

If you've been shooting top of the line gear, you're just going to be frustrated.  I shoot an older T1i and I'm saving my pennies for a 6D.  I can't imagine downgrading now.  As for you downgrading to a rebel, about the only argument in favor of this in my eyes would be to get a T4i with the 18-135 STM, because you'll want good video.  However, dedicated video cameras are cheap and having a second camera also lets mom or grandparents get involved.

To me, this is more of a question of lens selection.  I would keep your standard zoom and your fifty, for sure.  The only one I question is the 70-200, because you'll never be far enough away to use it.  I might unload it and pick up a 100L for portraits and quasi-macro (hands, feet, etc) or maybe a 135 (everybody says it's great) with some tubes for the close focus.  The other thing I suggest is more wide-angle of some sort.  I won't weigh in on selection, but once the baby can move, he's going to be crawling towards the camera, and fast.  I have the 20mm (on crop about 32mm) and I'm always backing up with it.  A 17-40 or even a 20-35 might get a lot of use, even on full frame, and help conserve your budget.

A point and shoot is a good idea, although if you have decent smartphones and don't keep your DSLR in a lockbox, you might not use it.  I got the g1x, and the image quality is great, although it's a little sluggish.  However, with a compact case, we take it all over (Wrigley field, pumpkin patch, weekend trips to Grandma's) and it is great to not lug a DSLR bag with all the rest of the baby gear.  We also have Elphs but the iphones take far more pictures than those.

Most important thing is just using them.  Our cameras sit out on shelves, ready to go, because you can't dig through a bag when he's having a "first".  Because the iphones take P&S quality snaps, I haven't stuffed an Elph in the diaper bag permanently, but my wife usually carries hers in her purse.  Read Ken Rockwell's article on why your wife wants you to buy better camera gear.  It's a bit sexist and nauseating, but the principle is pretty close.  I was never into portraiture, but I bought a flash, I'm trying to build a DIY ringflash, and looking at all sorts of umbrellas and stuff, too.  I wouldn't bother selling your 580, in fact, I'd start looking at lighting for your DIY baby portraits.  We took all sorts of home-made newborn photos, and, although they are nowhere near the quality that we got from the pro baby portrait studio, they are great, they're mine, and they are great memories to have from a time when all your baby does is sleep and poop.

If none of this helps you, then just take neuroanatomist's advice.  He's pretty much always right and never full of BS, from what I've read.
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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2012, 09:11:15 PM »
I would keep the EOS 5D mkII if you can afford it, sell the rest. Second hand value of the 5D mkII is going down very fast, you have camera for years and for your photography needs neither 6D or 5D mkIII offer you much benefit (AF precission for portraits only)

For landscape I would buy a second hand Sigma 24-60 2.8; it is an amaizing little lens for the price (around 250$ second hand), if you need wider than that a canon 20-35 can be found cheap and might do the job until you can afford something better

For portraits I would buy a Contax/Yashica 50mm f1.4 and a C/Y-EOS AF confirm adapter (around 80$); in my opinion it is better quality than the Canon 50/1.4 at a fraction of the cost if you can live with manual focus/aperture


If you can not afford kto keep the 5D mkII and want to go APS-C I would go for a Nikon D7000 or D5200 and something like a tokina 12-24 and a 50/1.8 manual nikon. I do not recomend canon APS-C for landscape because of its poor DR

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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2012, 09:21:59 PM »
If I could have one camera and one lens! I'd seriously contemplate a Leica m9 and a 35mm f1.4 ... Or I'd get a 1ds mark iii and use my zeiss 2/35. - cheaper option.

Btw Unless you really won't use a 5d2 I'm not sure I'd be wanting to sell it either.

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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2012, 05:14:15 AM »
If I could have one camera and one lens! I'd seriously contemplate a Leica m9 and a 35mm f1.4 ... Or I'd get a 1ds mark iii and use my zeiss 2/35. - cheaper option.

Btw Unless you really won't use a 5d2 I'm not sure I'd be wanting to sell it either.
You might want to read more carefully before replying. He's trying to free up some funds for his baby*, not asking for 'best regardless of money'.

*) literally. I know, I'm attached to my 5D3 too, but we're talking one with ten little fingers an' ten little toes an' everything.
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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2012, 02:12:16 PM »
In terms of bang per buck for what you are doing (portraits, growing family, and landscape) I think a used Canon 7D is a good option.  You also then have access to more the compact / lower cost EF-S lenses.

I have owned all of the 1Ds series and 5D series (waiting for Canon's response to Nikon), but I also keep a 7D house and it performs amazing well. 

With the introduction of new cameras recently you might find a good deal on a quality used 7D.  Avoid the base kit lens however.  The 15-85mm is pretty good quality however.

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If family comes first, then aps-c is the best option, or wait for the new aps-c lineup for early 2013.

If you insist on having ff, keep the 5d, andmaybe try to stretch your budget for the canon 28-300, I know it's hefty, it is all I can come up with that will give you great quality.

But if size is more important than quality, check out the tamron 18-270.

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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2012, 04:23:14 PM »
If finances are tight, it's definitely family first. But you have to have a better camera than the one on your phone! I just got a surprisingly good G15 for $399. It's such a monumental leap forward from my last G Canon. However, if the budget allows, keeping the 5D2 and getting a 24-105 f/4is would give you a very high quality, budget solution and a wad of cash to boot. Over the past few years, a gripless 5D C, II & now III with 24-105 has been my traveling-light combination. You can do most things with this high quality combo.

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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2012, 09:22:57 PM »
Could you use your gear to make some money?

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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2012, 10:32:03 PM »
It's all been said by now.  My take is pretty close to neuro's...

If possible, keep the 5D2.  (5D2 is worth ~$1K or more used maybe, IYL.)  You'll likely regret giving up FF.  Sell everything else.  If you must sell the 5D2, get a 5D Classic instead.  (5D is worth ~$600 or less, IYL.)  I've shot with one for years and it's a great camera.

Lens?  Well, if we are going for max $$ savings, keep the 50mm/1.8 and get one of these...

20-35 f/2.8  for wider indoor and lanscapes or one of the less expensive normal zooms mentioned already.  I'm sure the 24-105 is ideal but if it's too much $$, just get anything that works for what you're willing to spend.

After all, when push comes to shove, RLPhoto has a good point - 5D2 (or 5D) + 50/1.4 (or your 50/1.8 ) would do you fine.  No fuss, no muss.  Heck, if it were me, I could probably live with my 5D + my trusty 16-35/2.8, 24-105 and 50/1.4 forever.  In that order.  Sometimes I think that's what I should do too.  Dump it all and simplify!!

And I've used a Sunpak RD2000 with the Sto-Fen diffuser walking around for years.  Less than $100 and works great.  Yeah, I've got all the big flashes, but the RD2000 lives on my FF camera for fill.

Enjoy your family, your health and your love of photography.  Good luck with your decisions.  Please let us know what you decide.  I'm sure we can all relate and we all wonder what will happen!
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2012, 12:28:51 AM »
I've got an XS that Ill give you !!! Sell it, use it... whatever. Hit me up.

I have a few photographer friends that use only an iPhone. I know this is all DSLR-centric but I've heard it said many time before...

"The best camera in the world... is the one you have in hand when you need it."
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2012, 12:46:38 AM »
Congratulations on your 9-month-old!  And congratulations on having the instincts of a good father!

I am older than you, but I sold my 2-year old Harley Davidson the week after my 2nd daughter was born, and now I have 3rd baby!  Funny thing is, it hurt a little at the moment because of my pride, but given the joy of the kids I honestly never (almost) miss it.

The thing is, your main photo interest has kind of changed too.  I found that having a baby around seriously decreased my interest in landscapes (and travel shots!).  You need at bare minimum a kit capable of taking great baby shots.  You will NEVER get those precious days and months back ever.  And at 25 with a baby it probably doesn't seem like it, but you WILL have money again some day!  Honestly!

I agree with Neuro that you won't get a lot for a used 5D2 nowadays.  I'd be inclined to keep it for that reason, but if not, then a T3i (also as Neuro said) or even a T2i, would be great with your nifty fifty for baby portraits.  If you kept your 5D2, maybe an 85mm f/1.8 or a 135mm 2.0?

Bright side:  The way bodies depreciate, and lenses stay theh same, you can sit out for a few years, then buy a new design body that kicks the butt of current cameras, and you can re-buy the lenses for the same price you sold yours!

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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2012, 12:49:55 AM »
I'd keep the 5DII, sell both lenses and the 580, get a used 24-105L, a used 430 flash, and a used 50/1.8 II. I think that could net you $1500 and leave you with a very good kit for landscapes and portraits.

Agree totally. Used 50 or 35 your choice. A tripod to this list would help lots.
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Re: Only 1 lens
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2012, 01:53:42 AM »
If you can keep the 5D2 and 24-70. Also keep the 580 if possible. You are going to need a nice flash for taking photos of your baby.
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