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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2012, 01:43:56 AM »
RLPhoto, sorry if it was taken out of context. My response was to risc32 though, not you, so I didn't mean to imply that however you are doing things is wrong. Just that I personally prefer to be overpacked rather than underpacked and agree with his post.

I agree, I'll have a set of strobes in a roller case and extra accessories. My OP was that I wouldn't want all that extra weight of 2.8 zooms in my camera bag all day during a wedding when I'll still have to carry my primes anyway.

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2012, 01:43:56 AM »

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2012, 02:39:08 AM »
Here's what I prefer after years of shooting:

Scenario A - Nature Travel:  Zoom all the way. Good luck driving ten miles in a blizzard to get closer to that mountain range. Or that rainbow, or backing up to get those stormy skies and that river. The 24-105 L is IMHO, on both crop and FF, the greatest nature travel lens you can buy.

Scenario B - Urban shooting: Prime. Faster when the buildings block the sun. Light, portable, inconspicuous.

Scenario C - Indoors: Prime. There's no substitute for 1.4 -2.0.

Scenario D - Wildlife: Prime. If Canon's 200-400 is as sharp as the 500 or 300, I'll change my mind. For whatever reason, wildlife photos just look richer with a good prime lens.   Also, I'd much rather shoot at F4 than 5.6 when you get into those dark shrub/forest backgrounds.

Scenario E: Wide angle landscape: Zoom. I know the primes give better detail, but shooting this way is a pain. Nikon showed you can have amazing wide angle sharpness, hopefully Canon can match. I love prime lenses, but I really dislike shooting landscape with ultra wide primes. Lots of tripod maneuvering, adjusting, cropping, cloning, etc.

Best of luck with your decision.  You may want to consider renting a couple primes and zooms to help make your decision.


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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2012, 03:18:58 AM »
Here's what I prefer after years of shooting:

Scenario A - Nature Travel:  Zoom all the way. Good luck driving ten miles in a blizzard to get closer to that mountain range. ...

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Sorry, but I couldn't pass this up - if its a blizzard, you can't see the mountain range!

Actually, I agree with most of your calls.

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2012, 03:53:22 AM »
Actually, you can be outside the mountains, and have a clear view of the peaks and your immediate surroundings, then drive ten minutes into the mountains and be in blizzard conditions. Happened to me several times this fall/winter in Glacier National Park. Weird, but true.

This was my first year with the 24-105 L, and I can't praise that lens enough. Wonderful travel lens, but I do prefer it more on crop than FF. It just sings on crop. Really takes abuse, too. I know Canon is releasing a new 24-70 IS, but I don't see why I'd switch.

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2012, 10:13:36 AM »
The 24-105L is a great travel lens.  It is really hard to top it's versatility.  If I were shooting crop only, though, I would go with the 15-85mm.  It gives up very little to the 24-105L in IQ (if any), and is pretty much a perfect focal length on crop with a more compact size for travel.  It's IS is better.

The only thing it gives up is weathersealing.  It was tough for me to let it go when I switched to FF. That extra 31mm of reach is pretty huge at times for travel.

On FF, though, the 24-105L is a fantastic, versatile tool.  It's not a sexy choice, but it does most things pretty well.  I have been debating back and forth between taking it or my new 24-70mm Tamron, but the deciding factor in favor of the 24-105L has been my extensive filter collection in 77mm.  I only have a UV and a mediocre CPL in 82mm so far, and I find my square filters (Cokin P) vignette TERRIBLY on 82mm.
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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2012, 04:34:48 PM »

That 50L looks so sexy on the 5D III :P :P :P....I might have to pull trigger soon.

It performs on the 5D3 superbly and is now my fave goto combo on that body and the 1DX. Get it!!! DO IT !!!  :D

I just did, through Crutchfield with my all time fav B&W Clear filter. All items will be here this friday ;)


Sweeeet !!! I love that combo.... looking forward to hearing how you do with it.


Lens arrived today. This copy seems to have back focus issue. I haven't run through FoCal yet, but at f1.2 the lens seems to be very sharp when adjust to -8 AFMA

So far... the 50L has been one of the few lenses that always needs a AFMA. On my 7D (-6) , #1 5D3 (-2) , #2 5D3 (-3). I usually dial it in for f/1.4 at about 6-8 feet, once there... it's dead nutz OHN!!!

Hope your enjoying you new baby ;)

Ran through FoCal, setup at 2500mm(8.2ft).....at f1.2 FoCal showed the lens is best at -7 AFMA. My eyes were off by one(-8), not bad for an old man. This will be used for super bokeh shots and extreme low light.

I still think 24-70 f2.8 II is a better lens over all and it will remain on my 5D III as a main lens ;)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 06:02:44 PM by Dylan777 »
Body: 1DX -- 5D III
Zoom: 16-35L f4 IS -- 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
Prime: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2012, 06:18:10 PM »
Great lens... I'm so torn these days... love the 50, love the 70-200 II, and now 24-70 II... and then , and then... Love to see some images with the new rig when you get the time.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 06:19:43 PM by ChilledXpress »

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2012, 12:28:34 AM »
Great lens... I'm so torn these days... love the 50, love the 70-200 II, and now 24-70 II... and then , and then... Love to see some images with the new rig when you get the time.

Here are couple shots of 24-70 f2.8 II under normal and low light - no flash of course. Nothing special, just family photos.

2nd photo got cropped almost 70%, one of the reasons I shoot raw ;)
« Last Edit: December 16, 2012, 12:35:12 AM by Dylan777 »
Body: 1DX -- 5D III
Zoom: 16-35L f4 IS -- 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
Prime: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2012, 01:23:29 AM »
Great lens... I'm so torn these days... love the 50, love the 70-200 II, and now 24-70 II... and then , and then... Love to see some images with the new rig when you get the time.

And here is my new lens 50L before AFMA. I took thic pic inside the church last night. The lighting was quite bad. Here is shooting info f1.2  1/80 ISO2000, you can guess the lighting now. 
« Last Edit: December 16, 2012, 01:51:08 AM by Dylan777 »
Body: 1DX -- 5D III
Zoom: 16-35L f4 IS -- 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
Prime: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2012, 09:33:58 PM »
Great lens... I'm so torn these days... love the 50, love the 70-200 II, and now 24-70 II... and then , and then... Love to see some images with the new rig when you get the time.

Here are couple shots of 24-70 f2.8 II under normal and low light - no flash of course. Nothing special, just family photos.

2nd photo got cropped almost 70%, one of the reasons I shoot raw ;)

Honestly... no finer use of a camera than shooting for the family. The 24-70 ooks great, and beautiful family!

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Re: Zoom vs Primes?
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2012, 09:52:27 AM »
I don't want to invest in a lot of money in glass until I hear from other photographers. I do a lot of photography in the streets with my canon 5D mark ii ( got from eBay at a amazing price!) . I don't have any lens at the moment. I'm thinking about the 24-70 mark 2 or should I just go for some primes for my work? What do you recommend me?

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« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2012, 09:52:27 AM »