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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2012, 02:43:02 PM »
I have the 24L, 50L, and 135L and have pondered getting an 85 or the 100 Macro. Every time I shoot with the 135L, I say, :I love this lens" and doubt if I would use either of the other. Every time I shoot with the 50L, I am so very satisfied, I also doubt I would take out the 85 instead.

I would love to have the 35L, 85L and 200L to technically fill the voids of my current kit, but I have never had a situation yet where the lenses I have left me wanting something more/different.

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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 02:58:31 PM »
I have the 24L, 50L, and 135L and have pondered getting an 85 or the 100 Macro. Every time I shoot with the 135L, I say, :I love this lens" and doubt if I would use either of the other. Every time I shoot with the 50L, I am so very satisfied, I also doubt I would take out the 85 instead.

I would love to have the 35L, 85L and 200L to technically fill the voids of my current kit, but I have never had a situation yet where the lenses I have left me wanting something more/different.

That's almost the same situation I am in, got the 24L, a converted FD 55 1.2 and a soon to be EF converted FD 135/2. Well I also own the 100L, which I don't know if I really need it and the 15mm fisheye which is always nice to have and the 200/2.8! Now I want to sell the 200 because I don't use it, not even with my 1.4x II but don't know if I should buy the sigma 85 to complete my set...or just sell the 100 as well :D and keep the 3 firstly mentioned lenses and the fisheye... ??? After all the sigma 85 1.4 is pretty similar to the 55mm 1.2, you can always crop the pictures from the latter...
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2012, 04:31:29 PM »
Having FF with 35L, 50 1.5 and 135L, I'm thinking in:
1) selling the 50mm 1.4 and buy the 50L
2) buying the Sigma 85 1.4
3) buying 85L (more difficult due to the money involved)

Anyone had a similar debate?

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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 06:40:22 PM »
I'm waiting to see the January announcement before deciding, but the Sigma seems a good bet
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2012, 08:01:04 PM »
Someone mentioned that the Canon 85mm 1.8 has more unreliable autofocus. I am just posting to say that I have not found that to be the case. The Canon 85mm 1.8 has the best autofocus on any possible lens that I have tried, better for sure than the 70-200 II, for instance. It's never unreliable unless user error causes it to be so. (I.e., you mis-place your focusing points, such as accidentally beginning to press the button before the AF points are actually on your desired subject.)

The Sigma 85mm f/1.4 has slightly unreliable autofocus, I have found, but good enough that I can still rely on it at a basketball game (not 100% reliable). But Sigma's image quality at f/2.0 is far better than the Canon just because of the CA problem (chromatic aberration) that the Canon has.

With the Canon, you will get purple reflections from the out of focus stadium lights reflecting off of glasses, for example (ruining an otherwise good dunk photo, for example) if you shoot below f/2.8. So basically you are wasting more than one stop of the len's potential in order to avoid CA.

I don't have to worry at all about CA with the Sigma lens at f/2.0.

CA is the problem with the Canon, but its auto focus is as close to perfect as possible on all of my copies and every else's that I know. So I had to chime in and say something.

Yes, I have had disappointing focus experiences myself, but it has always been user error of my own like getting too eager and starting to lock focus before a subject is close enough to even register on the AF sensor. If I make a mistake like that, the lens will do a perfect job of tracking focus on the background. The way to fix that mistake is to take my finger completely off the shutter and re-acquire focus on the proper subject. So if you are experiencing any focusing problems with the 85mm 1.8, just wait a little bit. AF takes technique from the photographer as well as capability and accuracy from the lens. I am still learning and improving every day.


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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2012, 09:29:19 PM »
Having FF with 35L, 50 1.5 and 135L, I'm thinking in:
1) selling the 50mm 1.4 and buy the 50L
2) buying the Sigma 85 1.4
3) buying 85L (more difficult due to the money involved)

Anyone had a similar debate?

I was in a similar boat and I went with (2). That's my lineup now -- 35L, 50mm f/1.4, Sigma 85mm and the 135L. Haven't looked back (though I daydream about the 200mm f/2L every now and then)


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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2012, 09:59:21 PM »
I have found the 85L a strange focal length for me. It's not quite normal but not quite tele. It will melt the background but still leave some information.

Overall, I'd probably never own an 85L since my 135L is just so good. My 24, 50, and 135 kit are all good, separated, and unique focal lengths.

I'd recommend just to continue to use the 135L.
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2013, 01:04:51 AM »
35mm -> 85mm -> 135mm.  I would recommend 85mm.  Many people would recommend also to rent one for a weekend and see what you like. It depends on what you are shooting. Japanese yeh would go weak all the way till mid 2013. Do not know how much it would impact the lens price.  Wait till then if you can. Or buy when you have to. A used Canon 85L maybe?  Thanks.
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Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2013, 01:04:51 AM »