Hate to admit it, but I agree.
The 6D could have been so much better and appealed to a much larger audience without the cost being too much more and without compromising on the 5D, with a real hybrid between a XXXD, XXD & 7D with a full frame sensor
If you are looking for a longer term investment a 6D just isnt one to get in my mind.
I didnt expect the 6D to have poor IQ, and it has proven itself, it appears to be fantastic. But if you are an amateur used to the 9 point system the 11 point isnt a massive upgrade apart from one point, even the 650Ds are all cross point, but it will feel similar... not sure i like the idea of that price and the camera AF feeling similar. But I wouldn't buy a 2k camera that really doesn't improve much apart from IQ it needs to be across the board, a camera consists of more than just a good sensor. IQ means nothing if only one point is worth using.
What happens if you want some nice primes like a 50mm 1.2? taking full advantage of that IQ? focusing with the single point and recomposing at this fine DOF will return poor focus and as the other 10 are pretty much useless.... makes the IQ worthless, unless you plan on manual focusing most of the time. How often is your subject bang in the centre?
It has a few cool quirks with the Wi-fi & GPS. But really if everyone were to be honest it could have been better, it has clearly been detuned so not so step on the toes of the 5D MKIII but people who buy that camera are in a different market in my opinion. The D600 although also having its quirks, is a better option if your an amateur without too much invested.
I make money with my camera and buy what i need. If i was an amateur then I would feel even worse! It is an improvement over the 5D MKII but not 4 years worth of improvement. With the 5D MKIII not much more it doesn't make any sense in my mind to buy a 6D. £2k for a 5D MKIII or £1600 for the 6D? I bought a 5D.
I disagree on a few levels. Looking at al lthe bells and whistles on the mk3, and seeing the reaction to the price (many saying it should be $2500), where does that leave any room for improving the 6d?
Center point only, yeah it seems like a step back, but, looking at all the amazing images the 5d2 has cranked out over the lifetime of the cam center point may do just fine! Many claimed the 5d2 was only really usable to ISO 3200, and would push it to 6400 in a pinch if it was the only way to get the shot. It seems that the 6d is following the 5d3 in ISO, so ISO 6400 -12800 being usable is a huge upgrade!
Different strokes I guess, also, everyone looking at these bodies has their own needs to fill. For me, I have a mk3 so this would be a backup body. Yeah, the price difference isn't that huge (in the sticker at least, it's closer to $1200 difference after tax though). To me, that is the cost of a 135 f2L. If your on a mk2 looking to upgrade though, then yeah the 6d may not be as big of a leap as you want. But if your on a 60D, then just the FF sensor alone is reason to buy! Different strokes!
Granted the 5D MKIII at release was insane at £3500 but you can get body only for £1990 now, with the 6D at £1600.
Most pros hated the AF of the 5D MKII, but you have to remember it was revolutionary and it will be forever held in that sense, the AF was flawed then, but it was a great camera so most put up with it. The difference is that was 4 years ago!!!! 4 Years later and we have 2 points more and ONE cross type thats sensitive! Right in the middle! So what about composition? Or do you put everything in the middle? and when using fast glass youll be fine to see your focus and recompose is now not in focus? Because thats all you can do the rest arent worth talking about.
Then you have the 5D MKIII with 61 AF points 50 more... huge gap! or the 7D AF system in the middle with 19. If they had remade the 7D AF system for the FF 6D and spread them out, unlike the D600. This would have flown off the shelves, would have made the camera from a meh camera to a wow camera. Really worth it for up graders, just because people are amateurs does that mean they have to have the worst AF? Especially when there are other AF systems in the parts bin. Its just lazy, but im sure Canon wont loose anything but my money didnt go to one.
Whether all those pictures you quote actually came from the AF system or were manual focused you cant tell.
Like I said IQ isn't the problem. But its a flawed combination of great IQ and awful AF especially when you need the best L glass to resolve the sensor. Completely baffling! Suppose its just a shame really!
Not sure what Canon are doing they are too bothered about protecting their markets than embracing new ones... like the EOS M, could have been much better but they are protecting the XXXD market.
i have not laid hands on the 6d yet, nor have i seen a d600 in the hands of any of my nikon using friends, but, from what i have seen in images and reviews, the AF points on the d600 are all in the center of the frame anyways.
One thing i am noticing as i watch all the prices, sales, and that amazon top sellers list ---it does really seem that both nikon and canon have shot themselves in the foot with both the d600 and the 6d, and odd sales on 5d3 and d800. the 6d has yet to make the top 20, and for a while the d600 was in the top 20 but now nikon is tossing in a rebate on d800's. It seems that the rush to add an entry level FF has hurt the better offerings from both. the d800 had dropped in sales as the mk3 got discounted and the d600 sold. Now the prices of both are cut, and yeah if your looking for a primary body - if on nikon why buy a d600 if the cost of a d800 is down to $2800? Same for the 6d, with all the mk3 discounts why not just foot the extra $$$...
back to the point, the 6d. the field is so odd now. The 6d and the d600 are way more comparable than the d800 and the mk3. IE for a wedding shooter at least, if you are on canon, no reason to switch. And if you are nikon and using a d700, the d800 isn't for you - i hear it all the time when my nikon friends are asking for upgrade advice - for wedding work, stay on the d700, or look for a used d3, d3s, or a d4. None of them recommend the d800 (for wedding work). I say stop worrying so much about spec sheets and go shoot!!!!