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Moving to 6D from 5DII
« on: December 13, 2012, 03:06:07 PM »
Now that the 6D is out there, is there anyone moving from a 5DII to a 6D? As in - getting rid of the 5DII for the 6D. Not including people already moved up to a 5DIII or greater. Just looking for the those that consider the move from 5DII to 6D.  If so why?

I'm just curious. I actually just moved to one of these cameras from a 550. I bought the FF new.

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Moving to 6D from 5DII
« on: December 13, 2012, 03:06:07 PM »

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 03:15:09 PM »
That won't be much of an upgrade over the 5D2, Save alittle more for a 5D3.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 03:29:08 PM »
That won't be much of an upgrade over the 5D2, Save alittle more for a 5D3.

That's what I'm looking for:  Is the move from a 5DII to a 6D an upgrade or not?  Or in my case, do you save the money on getting the once raved about proven performer or go with the new?

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 03:51:10 PM »
I would take 6D over 5D II for one reason - true auto ISO in "M" mode. 5D II has fixed auto ISO @ 400. >:(
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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 04:05:30 PM »
That won't be much of an upgrade over the 5D2, Save alittle more for a 5D3.

That's what I'm looking for:  Is the move from a 5DII to a 6D an upgrade or not?  Or in my case, do you save the money on getting the once raved about proven performer or go with the new?

Yes, it is an upgrade.  In this chart (The-Digital-Picture) you can see the 6D improvements over the 5D mkII in red.  Do those improvements justify the move? only you can decide.

http://media.the-digital-picture.com/Images/Other/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera/Canon-EOS-6D-Comparison-Chart.jpg
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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 04:07:04 PM »
That won't be much of an upgrade over the 5D2, Save alittle more for a 5D3.

That's what I'm looking for:  Is the move from a 5DII to a 6D an upgrade or not?  Or in my case, do you save the money on getting the once raved about proven performer or go with the new?

I think the move would depend on what you were shooting. If your AF isn't having to track moving subjects, and you're using low ISO's I doubt there will be much difference unless features such as the electronic chromatic aberration correction improves overall IQ.

But if you were shooting moving subjects and needing to use high ISO's my guess would be that this camera is in a different league to the MK2.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 04:21:15 PM »
I am staying with my 5DII.  I have no interest in the 6D.  In the future I would consider the 5DMIII.  Of course there is not a lot of info on the 6D yet so I guess I could be convinced it would be an upgrade but I doubt it.
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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 04:21:15 PM »

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 04:53:40 PM »
Ive owned a 5Dii for 4 years and am still keeping it, mainly for diving. I have also been shooting with the 6D for nearly 2 weeks now. There are 3 main differences you are getting with the 6D:

1. Better Central Focus Square
2. Better High ISO Noise
3. Wifi Tethering

Granted there are a few other differences here and there, but in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, these three are the biggest. Is it worth the extra $300?

Ive also posted a video on Youtube showing side by side comparisons of the 5Dii vs 6D with ISO noise in low light:

Canon 6D vs 5DII - Is the 6D worth the extra cost & why? Comparison Tutorial

And have focus speed tests on my blog: www.michaelthemaven.com

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 06:56:29 PM »
Ive owned a 5Dii for 4 years and am still keeping it, mainly for diving. I have also been shooting with the 6D for nearly 2 weeks now. There are 3 main differences you are getting with the 6D:

1. Better Central Focus Square
2. Better High ISO Noise
3. Wifi Tethering

Granted there are a few other differences here and there, but in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, these three are the biggest. Is it worth the extra $300?

Ive also posted a video on Youtube showing side by side comparisons of the 5Dii vs 6D with ISO noise in low light:

Canon 6D vs 5DII - Is the 6D worth the extra cost & why? Comparison Tutorial

And have focus speed tests on my blog: www.michaelthemaven.com

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Great video! I'm really liking the 6D!
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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 07:22:20 PM »
Michael,

In the ISO video test can you tell if the noise performance is better because of any default camera setting? The noise does appear better with the 6D compared to the 5DIII but the picture also to me appears softer. Is it possible that the default noise reduction is set higher than the 5dIII?

Or maybe this is a better way to ask the question - can the noise reduction be set on the 5DIII so that image quality is the same as what you show on the 6D?  (Might be a dumb question - I don't mess with video).

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 07:32:33 PM »
It is a upgrade, but slight at best.  No reason to sell a 5D MK II to get one.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2012, 07:47:38 PM »

I think the move would depend on what you were shooting. If your AF isn't having to track moving subjects, and you're using low ISO's I doubt there will be much difference unless features such as the electronic chromatic aberration correction improves overall IQ.

But if you were shooting moving subjects and needing to use high ISO's my guess would be that this camera is in a different league to the MK2.

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I'll keep my 5D2 for now. 6D does not look like enough of an improvement at low ISO where I use it to be a compelling up/side-grade.  OTOH, I need to look at some shots to see what the noise structure is like on the 6D.  If it doesn't have the heavily banded noise my 5D2 adds to low ISO shots then it might be worthwhile for me to migrate to it as a low cost FF EOS body.  Or just keep it around for well-lit studio shots where I won't ever have to push its files.
As it is, I have other, superior performing low ISO FF bodies to use when I need utmost IQ.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 10:23:22 PM »
It is a upgrade, but slight at best.  No reason to sell a 5D MK II to get one.

agreed
however say you were getting into something like weddings and had a 5D2 but wanted another body to dual wield a 6d would be a pretty good complement with its significantly better high iso ability
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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 10:23:22 PM »

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 10:59:37 PM »
Michael,

In the ISO video test can you tell if the noise performance is better because of any default camera setting? The noise does appear better with the 6D compared to the 5DIII but the picture also to me appears softer. Is it possible that the default noise reduction is set higher than the 5dIII?

Or maybe this is a better way to ask the question - can the noise reduction be set on the 5DIII so that image quality is the same as what you show on the 6D?  (Might be a dumb question - I don't mess with video).

Good question. It was set to Standard Noise Reduction on all 4 cameras I tested. (5Dii, 5Diii, Nikon D600, Canon 6D)

I also got the RAW plugins today that allow me to open the 6D RAW files in PS & LR, Im checking out the banding, etc, and it looks like the 6D is about a stop better than the 5Diii. 5Diii starts to fall apart at 6400, 6D is comparable at 12800. Ill redo the test and actually post the files for everyone to look at for themselves so they can judge.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 12:17:56 AM »
5D2 -> 5D3
rebel -> either 5D2, 6D, 7D/2
7D -> either 5D3 or 7D/2

Depending on your purpose these might change.  A 5D2 to 6D seems not a very big upgrade.  However if you're in a business and 5D2 is enough for most of the things you do and it's already near breaking point, an upgrade to 6D isn't unimaginable.  Let your purpose/goal decide what's truly an upgrade for you and not just because whatever has better specs.

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Re: Moving to 6D from 5DII
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 12:17:56 AM »