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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2012, 03:47:25 AM »
This is the only Canon lens I would instantly buy at the moment without any reconsidering if IQ is good (nearly as good as Nikons or better) ...
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 04:50:08 AM »
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<strong>A New Canon Ultrawide Zoom<br />


</strong>This lens comes up every now and then as something that will be added to the Canon lineup. A couple of patents that have referenced this optical formula are out there, which tells us it’s something that is on the minds of the R&D team at Canon.</p>
<p>I was told today that the lens is in the pipeline and will be coming in 2013 if there are no more delays with lens production. I was told to expect availability to be in late 2013, but the announcement date was unknown at this time. It makes perfect sense that this sort of lens would be announced with the imminent large megapixel camera that Canon will unveil in 2013.</p>
<p>There were a few lenses that were to be announced in 2012 that will be pushed into 2013. A lot had to do with production delays with the new supertelephotos as well as the <a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/843008-USA/Canon_5175B002_EF_24_70mm_f_2_8L_II.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">EF 24-70 f/2.8L II</a>.</p>
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YESSSS! Virtual Christmas present for me then. There is joy in  the waiting. Hopefully it won't be more than 2k
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2012, 04:55:06 AM »
When I saw this on CR, I thought if this doesn't get a bunch of ecstatic posts, then the forum members are just plain weird.

I guess I'm weird.

My least used lens is my ultra wide rectilinear.  I either use a 24-xxx rectilinear or my Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye.  That fish is every bit an L-prime, and I find a fisheye is a much more useful lens than an ultrawide rectilinear.  I shot 18 times as many shots in 2012 with the fish as I did with my ultrawide rectilinear.  That number appears to be going up over time, as it's only 3x over the last 6 years.  I guess I'm getting more and more comfortable with the fish.

Oh, you're fine. An ultrawide zoom isn't what everyone wants.
But there are so many people here who have been posting repeatedly asking for the 14-24 and praising the Nikon, I wonder where they are hiding now. Even yesterday someone responded to the 50 1.4 IS post by saying where's the 14-24.
The ones that were asking for a 14-24 in the 50 1.4 IS thread was another poster and me. And here I am, jumping up and down. ;-) See my former post.
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2012, 08:34:26 AM »
When I saw this on CR, I thought if this doesn't get a bunch of ecstatic posts, then the forum members are just plain weird.

I guess I'm weird.

My least used lens is my ultra wide rectilinear.  I either use a 24-xxx rectilinear or my Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye.  That fish is every bit an L-prime, and I find a fisheye is a much more useful lens than an ultrawide rectilinear.  I shot 18 times as many shots in 2012 with the fish as I did with my ultrawide rectilinear.  That number appears to be going up over time, as it's only 3x over the last 6 years.  I guess I'm getting more and more comfortable with the fish.

Oh, you're fine. An ultrawide zoom isn't what everyone wants.
But there are so many people here who have been posting repeatedly asking for the 14-24 and praising the Nikon, I wonder where they are hiding now. Even yesterday someone responded to the 50 1.4 IS post by saying where's the 14-24.

They're in shock.... and wondering how hey're going to save up all that money!

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2012, 10:01:16 AM »
When I saw this on CR, I thought if this doesn't get a bunch of ecstatic posts, then the forum members are just plain weird.

I guess I'm weird.

My least used lens is my ultra wide rectilinear.  I either use a 24-xxx rectilinear or my Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye.  That fish is every bit an L-prime, and I find a fisheye is a much more useful lens than an ultrawide rectilinear.  I shot 18 times as many shots in 2012 with the fish as I did with my ultrawide rectilinear.  That number appears to be going up over time, as it's only 3x over the last 6 years.  I guess I'm getting more and more comfortable with the fish.

Oh, you're fine. An ultrawide zoom isn't what everyone wants.
But there are so many people here who have been posting repeatedly asking for the 14-24 and praising the Nikon, I wonder where they are hiding now. Even yesterday someone responded to the 50 1.4 IS post by saying where's the 14-24.

They're in shock.... and wondering how hey're going to save up all that money!

I know someone that switched to Nikon for the 14-24.  When he got it, he was so happy.  A year later he switched back after realizing he almost never used the 14-24.

It's not that it doesn't have its uses, but it's uses are so limited for many that it just doesn't get used that much.  14 is awfully wide for a rectilinear, giving you very stretched corners, having "only" 24mm on the long end makes it even less useful than the 16-35 or 17-40, and landscapers ought to be using the 17TSE or 24TSE instead.

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2012, 10:23:26 AM »
I will use it for nightscapes. Due to the 500 or 600 rule (500 divided into the longest length of your lens yields sharp stars without trails) the shorter the better! It may cost me a fortune as an enthusiast amateur. But it will be a great lens, one you buy once in a lifetime. Thought about the Sigma 12-24 4.5-5.6 first, but I held myself back and now I am glad I did. 16-35 seemed a bit long according to the above mentioned technique. So, can't wait to add it to my lens line up and do night sky at 14mm even wide open and ISO 6400, 8000 or even 12800 on my 5Diii! Won't buy it in the first hour once it hits the shelf, as saving up for it is almost as much as great! Meanwhile, the 28 2.8 will do.  8)
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2012, 11:17:04 AM »
I love Canon 2013.
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2012, 11:31:43 AM »
Anyone want to buy my 16-35 II? :-)

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2012, 11:41:28 AM »
Well, if it does emerge in the second half of 2013, that means most people have to wait till early 2014 for consistent supply, quirks with the first batch fixed, and the price stabilized... business as usual. *shrug*
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2012, 11:51:03 AM »
The 16-35 definitely covers a wider range of focal lengths, which is useful for certain purposes, but the 14-24 is theoretically better in every aspect except for the focal length in the long-range. Here's the main question: would a photographer get the 14-24 for the wider focal length and better performance, or would a photographer get the 16-35 for the versatility in focal length? I'd definitely pick the 14-24. Any day. It just offers so much more!

I don't see the photojournalist crowd going 14-24. Everybody else (who can afford it), hell yes!

Some photojournalist will certainly get one of these.  Sometimes you need to view everything that's happening but you still want to be as close as possible to your subjects.  I'm not saying the 16-35 can't do this.  All I'm saying is that you can capture more with 14-24.

That number will be infinitesimally small. Even with a Reuters budget, imagine trying to convince the bean counters you want a lens that's $3000 (instead of $1500) because it widens to 14mm rather than 16mm. I don't see that happening. And for the stringers, you'd have to be damn successful (monied) to add that to your expense side.

Also, the 24 limit is going to scare pros. I think they feel constrained enough with the 16-35 already, but I'm guessing that's what photo editors want. Given the overall IQ with that lens and the digital sensors, they can crop 80% and still have an image viable for 99% of what they need. (Try that with film!)
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2012, 01:18:18 PM »
To everyone saying they would buy this lens immediately, I have to ask, and I'm not trolling...how is the current 14mm L lens letting you down? Is the ability to zoom from 14-24 that killer of a feature?
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2012, 01:23:08 PM »
Very interesting focal range, hopefully it can compete with the Zeiss 21/2.8 in IQ.

However the more people say they are willing to pay 3k, 4k for it and that they'll buy ten of them...the more that Canon is going to charge 3k, 4k.

I've always thought they only leak products preciselly to finetune their price point...and have a bunch of people reading forums...see what happened with the 5D3, all forums full of people saying they were willing to sell a kidney for it...and then I had to sell mine to get it! now is significantly cheaper, not very long after release.

Anyway, hope the 14-24L becomes a reality :=)

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2012, 01:45:30 PM »
To everyone saying they would buy this lens immediately, I have to ask, and I'm not trolling...how is the current 14mm L lens letting you down? Is the ability to zoom from 14-24 that killer of a feature?

I am loving my 14mm L. I have done amazing landscapes with it. I really don't know if the 14-24 would be attractive. If it turns out killer perhaps I might consider parting with the 14L and 24L. But I really dont think so. For me I think the primes will complete my needs for landscape.

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2012, 02:35:51 PM »
As for photojournalists, many of them that are using 16-35's are still shooting 1D MkIII and MkIV's, the 16-35 works very well in the pack on a 1.3 crop camera, the 14-24 would not be anywhere near as attractive, that is why Nikon still offer a 17-35 f2.8 as well as the 14-24.

Why would I get one? Well yes the zoom is nice but it wouldn't replace my 16-35, however the Canon 14mm, well the two I have shot with, one a loaner via CPS and one from LensRentals, were both crap in the corners. I do some high end real estate work and currently use the 17mm TS-E for most of it, but when I want wider and not stitch then I have found the 15mm fisheye defished is better in the corners than the 14mm L prime, and it gives a wider field of view.

After CPS adjustment, my 14L is very good to excellent

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2012, 11:17:31 PM »
Why has no one asked about the use of filters on this lens. How wide is the front element likely to be and will it be designed to accommodate filters?

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Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
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