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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2018, 06:08:19 AM »
Excellent portraits, Viggo.  Great use of lighting.

Here's one that shows how a close, busy background is handled by the lens.  She's about one meter in front of the shrub, and I'm about two meters from her.  Heavy-overcast midday light, f/1.4, ISO 200, 1/1600th

While I see the 1.4L IS working very well with skin tones and colors in general, I'm kind of missing the "vintage" look of out-of-focus areas that the 1.2L produced.  But giving up the slow AF was the right move.  The IS, so far, doesn't seem as good as on the 100-400 II, or on the 70-200 2.8 II.  What do you think?

Thanks!

I really like the bokeh of the 85 IS, both in your shot and others. The colors are great too.

I’ve tested the IS and it’s almost 100% hit with 4 stops and about 60-70% with 5 stops so I find it to be as spec’d. What I do notice with this and other IS lenses is that if you’re not already steady when activating IS it will perhaps use the “auto-panning” mode and not activate both directions. I then find it faster to let go the button until IS stops and then activate it again.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2018, 06:08:19 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2018, 09:02:24 AM »
Excellent portraits, Viggo.  Great use of lighting.

Here's one that shows how a close, busy background is handled by the lens.  She's about one meter in front of the shrub, and I'm about two meters from her.  Heavy-overcast midday light, f/1.4, ISO 200, 1/1600th

While I see the 1.4L IS working very well with skin tones and colors in general, I'm kind of missing the "vintage" look of out-of-focus areas that the 1.2L produced.  But giving up the slow AF was the right move.  The IS, so far, doesn't seem as good as on the 100-400 II, or on the 70-200 2.8 II.  What do you think?

Thanks!

I really like the bokeh of the 85 IS, both in your shot and others. The colors are great too.

I’ve tested the IS and it’s almost 100% hit with 4 stops and about 60-70% with 5 stops so I find it to be as spec’d. What I do notice with this and other IS lenses is that if you’re not already steady when activating IS it will perhaps use the “auto-panning” mode and not activate both directions. I then find it faster to let go the button until IS stops and then activate it again.

Interesting observation.  I'll try the same!

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2018, 06:16:34 AM »
Some great shots in this thread. This is a lens that I'd really love to own, especially for the addition of IS, but my EF 85mm f/1.8 still produces pretty good images for an old lens. The image attached was taken with my old 40D, which has now bitten the dust.  Lenses have been so good for so long that the law of diminishing returns applies. When I upgraded from the non-IS to IS version of the 70-200mm f/4L I loved the IS, but the improvement in IQ was barely noticeable. This is why I can't imagine there will be a massive improvement with a 70-200mm f/4L IS Mark 2 because the original is so good. Nice to be able to upgrade to the latest technology if you can afford it, but I think there's still a lot of mileage to be had from old lenses.

I can sympathise with you here. I've had around five or so copies of the 85/1.8 over the years, and my latest one, which is of recent production is head and shoulders above the others. Also moving to the 5DS from 5DII has meant that the AF accuracy is now on the nail about 90% of the time, and when you really ping the focus chromatic aberration is lessened.

The big issue for me though is camera shake. To optimise the 5DS's performance I'm having to shoot at least over the 1/250 to 1/500th region, depending upon how much coffee I've had or how pretty the model is. As the 5DS isn't the worlds best performing camera at higher ISOs I'm kinda thinking I need an 85 with IS.

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2018, 08:43:35 AM »
A little update here, I’ve been going back and forth with afma between -3 and -4, it’s hard to tell the difference between those two, but I decided to take my own advice ; when the afma isn’t perfect the stability goes out the window. So while I can’t mostly tell if -4 or -4 is most accurate I can tell a huge difference in the stability. Going away from -3 and using -4 exclusively I’ve practically eliminilated all those “wth-misses” and while the 85 IS AF isn’t a match for the 35 L II, it’s now much more predictable and stable.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2018, 10:35:40 PM »
A little update here, I’ve been going back and forth with afma between -3 and -4, it’s hard to tell the difference between those two, but I decided to take my own advice ; when the afma isn’t perfect the stability goes out the window. So while I can’t mostly tell if -4 or -4 is most accurate I can tell a huge difference in the stability. Going away from -3 and using -4 exclusively I’ve practically eliminilated all those “wth-misses” and while the 85 IS AF isn’t a match for the 35 L II, it’s now much more predictable and stable.

Nearly the identical experience and situation here with the AFMA.  I think there is just too much glass moving to expect it to perform as a sports lens, but the odd misses, rarer now, are still disconcerting.

The 35mm 1.4 II is a true gem, but even it takes its time with AF going from mid-distance to close.  Still, as you say, quicker!

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »
Shot at 1.4. Took it rather quickly so not my best, but the bokeh is quite beautiful on this lens. Colors are great.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2018, 06:07:10 PM »
Shot at 1.4. Took it rather quickly so not my best, but the bokeh is quite beautiful on this lens. Colors are great.

At 1.4 it makes your point about the lens much better than it shows the nice-looking dog. It would need to be stopped down to make the nose and the left ear both in focus at least for my tastes. I started to included the neckerchief in that, but it likely would be OK if the whole head were sharp.

Is the dog as nice as he/she looks to be?

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2018, 06:12:27 PM »
Shot at 1.4. Took it rather quickly so not my best, but the bokeh is quite beautiful on this lens. Colors are great.

At 1.4 it makes your point about the lens much better than it shows the nice-looking dog. It would need to be stopped down to make the nose and the left ear both in focus at least for my tastes. I started to included the neckerchief in that, but it likely would be OK if the whole head were sharp.

Is the dog as nice as he/she looks to be?

Yes!! She's a sweetheart. Her name is Harley-Quinn. :) And, also yes, you would have to stop down to f/2 just to get her whole head in focus. A decent bokeh test though. Was also shot out 3 1/2 feet away from her.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2018, 07:28:00 PM »
... you would have to stop down to f/2 just to get her whole head in focus. A decent bokeh test though. Was also shot out 3 1/2 feet away from her.

With respect, assuming the dog's head is around 6" from nose to ears and you were 3.5' away, you'd have to stop down to f16 to get the nose eyes and ears in "acceptable focus".

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2018, 08:01:21 PM »
Shot at 1.4. Took it rather quickly so not my best, but the bokeh is quite beautiful on this lens. Colors are great.

Very nice portrait. Well done, CanonGrunt.   :)

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2018, 12:37:02 AM »
... you would have to stop down to f/2 just to get her whole head in focus. A decent bokeh test though. Was also shot out 3 1/2 feet away from her.

With respect, assuming the dog's head is around 6" from nose to ears and you were 3.5' away, you'd have to stop down to f16 to get the nose eyes and ears in "acceptable focus".

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

Maybe the ear and the tip of the nose could be a little soft at some stop in between, then, and/or take a step back from the dog. But I like the effect of the distortion from being too close. Works better with dogs than with people, apparently. I do have an interesting print from about 1972 of a shot of a friend that I took with a fisheye lens. I must have been almost up to his nose. It may turn out that the dog picture would lose a lot its charm and immediacy with more thought in the technique.

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 06:56:16 AM »
Hi all,

Long time lurker, recently picked up one of the new 85s, pretty solid lens so far, my only issue is I'm getting some vertical diffraction spikes on any point light sources in the frame. Anyone else encountered this in their shots?

Have tried without a lens hood and with a couple of hoods and that has made no difference. Attached photo is an example of the issue.


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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »
Hi all,

Long time lurker, recently picked up one of the new 85s, pretty solid lens so far, my only issue is I'm getting some vertical diffraction spikes on any point light sources in the frame. Anyone else encountered this in their shots?

Have tried without a lens hood and with a couple of hoods and that has made no difference. Attached photo is an example of the issue.

That is not normal. If no other lenses create that on your body I'd say there is an issue with the one lens. Send to back and get another copy.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »