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my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:05:45 AM »
so for Christmas i received a hero 3 black.
it does 240FPS at 820x480
120FPS in 720P
60FPS in 1080P

why is it so much faster then my 7D?
can the 7D be hacked to do more then 240FPS?


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my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:05:45 AM »

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 08:15:51 AM »
Yes. It's all essentially the same hardware and merely a software limitation imposed by the Canon marketing department.
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 08:29:37 AM »
Yes. It's all essentially the same hardware and merely a software limitation imposed by the Canon marketing department.

i don't get that.
same as what?

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 08:33:23 AM »
I do not understand this at all.

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 08:39:29 AM »
I do not understand this at all.

i am wondering why the 7D cannot do higher frame rates.
with the super high ISO i would imagine it could do well beyond the 240FPS of the hero 3 as far as lighting.
with faster processing i would think it could do much faster FPS.

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 08:46:03 AM »
Different beasts. The 7D is three years old now, in modern tech terms that's ancient. When the 7D came out, 120fps was not even on anybodies radar as a digital shooting format - except with the Red One, which would've set you back quite a bit more than a 7D.

There's all sorts or things that effect what a camera is or is not capable of, including heat dissipation, sensor read-out speed & refresh rate, sampling method, processing power, buffer size, etc, etc. My guess is that the (relatively) ancient 7D is lacking a lot of what is required to shoot proper 720p at 120fps.

The Hero 3, on the other hand, is brand spanking new and has been developed as a special-purpose tool. Action sports is it's primary market and the guys at GoPro have worked hard to deliver a product that meets the needs of the target market. Of course it comes without all the bells and whistles that even an ancient 7D has, like a large sensor, interchangeable lenses, 18mp RAW stills at 8fps, manual everything, etc, etc.

I can only dream, though, that the next generation DSLR's do have 720p at 120fps. Panasonic have introduced it on several of their cameras, and I'm considering buying a FZ200 for that feature alone. If a Canon 70D or 7DmkII shot nice, clean 720p at 120fps, it would definitely make my RED Scarlet dream redundant, at least until clients starts asking me to shoot 4K.

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 08:46:15 AM »
Why can't the gopro mount an EF telephoto? Why can't the gopro take a 30 second exposure photo?

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 09:32:42 AM »
You are being mocked for asking this.

The GoPro was designed from the ground up as an action video camera.
The 7D was designed to be a very capable still photo camera with a cinema mode. I wish people would stop calling it a video mode. The cinema mode is designed to allow cinematographers to film things cheaper and with smaller gear than possible traditionally. No matter how much people might want to think of them as a video camera, they aren't.
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 10:17:21 AM »
Also... sensor size from 7D vs hero plus different purposes...  the 7D was designed as a sports CAMERA with video as an add-on... the hero is a video camera... nothing more nothing less.  Newsflash, I would also say if and when the 7d2 comes out, I wouldn't magically expect 60fps 1080p, 120fps 720, etc...
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 11:18:26 AM »
scoobert, have you looked at what Magic Lantern can do for your 7D?
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 02:13:24 PM »
Why doesn't my tractor taste like an apple when i bite it?

Why can't my leathrman include a two week holiday to spain?

Why can't a dslr behave like an action cam?

Somebody here is being very silly, and I'm sure it isn't me.

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 02:34:46 PM »
Why doesn't my tractor taste like an apple when i bite it?

Why can't my leathrman include a two week holiday to spain?

Why can't a dslr behave like an action cam?

Somebody here is being very silly, and I'm sure it isn't me.

 ;D I knew stamping "4K" on the GoPro and the high framerates would spawn threads like this.  Someone was whining earlier that there is no excuse for all DSLR's to have 4K because the GoPro does, as if it were comparable to a RED or something.  I got my Hero 3 yesterday and believe me, the 4K looks like complete garbage and was obviously added to fluff the specs.  The IQ from a 7D is far superior, that being said it's not really a fair comparison, two totally different cameras.
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 02:42:02 PM »
Basically what everyone else has said (older hardware, stills camera that does video, etc), but also the fact that the resolution on the sensor is vastly larger than the sensor on the GoPro, not to mention the physical size of the sensor and associated heat disipation, pixel read-out timing, etc.

Basically, 2 devices that have drastically different purposes, with one of them happening to be able to do _some_ of the stuff the purpose built device can.
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 02:42:02 PM »

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 04:01:41 PM »
Why doesn't my tractor taste like an apple when i bite it?

Why can't my leathrman include a two week holiday to spain?

Why can't a dslr behave like an action cam?

Somebody here is being very silly, and I'm sure it isn't me.

Couldn't have said it any better.
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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 04:17:46 PM »
Why doesn't my tractor taste like an apple when i bite it?

Why can't my leathrman include a two week holiday to spain?

Why can't a dslr behave like an action cam?

Somebody here is being very silly, and I'm sure it isn't me.

 ;D I knew stamping "4K" on the GoPro and the high framerates would spawn threads like this.  Someone was whining earlier that there is no excuse for all DSLR's to have 4K because the GoPro does, as if it were comparable to a RED or something.  I got my Hero 3 yesterday and believe me, the 4K looks like complete garbage and was obviously added to fluff the specs.  The IQ from a 7D is far superior, that being said it's not really a fair comparison, two totally different cameras.

It's still 4k nonetheless, you quote "stamping" like it's not technically. It's a great small camera, that is capable of 4k. The size difference in sensors makes a big factor, but what if you had a sensor 4times larger than RED, would you label RED as "stamping" 4K? Just saying.

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Re: my new hero3 black, why is it better then my 7D?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 04:17:46 PM »