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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #765 on: February 13, 2018, 07:47:00 AM »
And yet another one. They do not mind having their pcture taken but to get a smile you need to give a coin or a piece of candy.
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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #765 on: February 13, 2018, 07:47:00 AM »

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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #766 on: February 15, 2018, 09:28:20 AM »
Hi hne.
Hopefully one of these two versions is what you meant.
I tried one cutting his right shoulder in half and I am not sure if it leaves enough room below his face? So I did it again through his left shoulder! (It came down to not being sure if you meant his right or on screen right!)
Please could you let me know if either of these are what you meant, personally I think the second version is the one that works best and I also think your suggestion worked, either of the new versions seem to have more power to them.

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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #767 on: February 15, 2018, 02:01:05 PM »
Personally, and I admit my opinion is worth nothing, the portrait falls in an uncomfortable gap between environmental portrait and personal study.

It isn't wide enough to be an environmental image, something like him leaning on an interesting car or plane, so there is little context to what background we can see. On the other hand it isn't close or intimate enough to be a portrait of the person, and he is hiding behind those glasses anyway.

For the environmental type image I'd use something in the 24-35mm focal range and stand back, for the personal study type image I'd use the 100 macro or the 70-200 f2.8 or anything 85mm and over, and crop in much closer.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #768 on: February 15, 2018, 06:43:38 PM »
I've been taking pictures of the crocuses in front of my house using the 100mm macro lens. I went out this afternoon to take shots of what will likely be the last blooms. I also got a nice shot of the hyacinths coming up.

My next door neighbor was out washing her car, and I talked with her a bit. It turns out she had taken a photography course in college, and she was asking me questions about the camera and the lens. She knew what a macro lens is. I told her that it also is a sharp small telephoto lens and is in the range to make good portraits. I took a nice picture of her to illustrate, but I like better the shot with her holding one of her cats:


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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #769 on: February 15, 2018, 08:25:59 PM »
Hi PBD.
Thanks for your tuppence, I save them up and when all are added together the value of the advice increases almost exponentially!  :)
I don’t think he was hiding behind the glasses, so much as protecting his eyesight! I’m sure you are aware that Goodwood motor circuit is on an airfield and the wind whistles accross there plus the sun was low and for a change bright enough to hurt and he is to a great extent facing in to it.  8) That said I accept the point and if possible I prefer shots without sun glasses.

Cheers, Graham.

Personally, and I admit my opinion is worth nothing, the portrait falls in an uncomfortable gap between environmental portrait and personal study.

It isn't wide enough to be an environmental image, something like him leaning on an interesting car or plane, so there is little context to what background we can see. On the other hand it isn't close or intimate enough to be a portrait of the person, and he is hiding behind those glasses anyway.

For the environmental type image I'd use something in the 24-35mm focal range and stand back, for the personal study type image I'd use the 100 macro or the 70-200 f2.8 or anything 85mm and over, and crop in much closer.
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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #770 on: February 15, 2018, 08:30:08 PM »
Hi Steve.
It is a nice shot of the cat, but the cat as a subject is fugly scary!  :)

Cheers, Graham. 

I've been taking pictures of the crocuses in front of my house using the 100mm macro lens. I went out this afternoon to take shots of what will likely be the last blooms. I also got a nice shot of the hyacinths coming up.

My next door neighbor was out washing her car, and I talked with her a bit. It turns out she had taken a photography course in college, and she was asking me questions about the camera and the lens. She knew what a macro lens is. I told her that it also is a sharp small telephoto lens and is in the range to make good portraits. I took a nice picture of her to illustrate, but I like better the shot with her holding one of her cats:


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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #771 on: February 15, 2018, 08:38:29 PM »
I used to ride my bike from Bognor to Goodwood in the late '70's early '80's to take pictures of the F1 teams in testing, you could just walk around in those days!

Used to know John Watson and Derek Bell the two famous drivers from Pagham, which is the posh part of Bognor  ;) I was watching David Purley in his Pitts Special off Bognor beach when he crashed too  :(

I know Goodwood, and West Sussex very well  ;)
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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #771 on: February 15, 2018, 08:38:29 PM »

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« Reply #772 on: February 16, 2018, 04:15:14 AM »
Hi PBD.
I have one like that, I used to regularly ride my (push) bike to the shed where they were building Thrust 2 and chat with the crew, I learned so much about the car from those guys, it was an open area by Wootton Creek at Fishbourne by the ferry terminal. They built it with the doors open a lot of the time, now there is nothing interesting happening there but the place has fences and gates and signs warning you away!  ::)

Cheers, Graham. 

I used to ride my bike from Bognor to Goodwood in the late '70's early '80's to take pictures of the F1 teams in testing, you could just walk around in those days!

Used to know John Watson and Derek Bell the two famous drivers from Pagham, which is the posh part of Bognor  ;) I was watching David Purley in his Pitts Special off Bognor beach when he crashed too  :(

I know Goodwood, and West Sussex very well  ;)
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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #773 on: February 16, 2018, 10:56:11 AM »
Hi Steve.
It is a nice shot of the cat, but the cat as a subject is fugly scary!  :)

Cheers, Graham.

Ricky is actually a nice cat. So is his brother Bobby. (I didn't ask whether they were named for the Will Ferrell character.) I posted this picture to our neighborhood group on Facebook, and Jennifer liked it and said Ricky is talking to me. In person he didn't seem about to attack, even if the picture looks like it.

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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #774 on: February 16, 2018, 07:38:15 PM »
Hi Steve.
As a cat person I’m sure he is really nice, you just can’t tell that from your shot! :)
By the way, do you know the breed, I’m sure with such a distinctive appearance he is not just an ordinary moggy?
My apologies if it seemed I was being down on the shot, not my intention, ever.

Cheers, Graham.

Hi Steve.
It is a nice shot of the cat, but the cat as a subject is fugly scary!  :)

Cheers, Graham.

Ricky is actually a nice cat. So is his brother Bobby. (I didn't ask whether they were named for the Will Ferrell character.) I posted this picture to our neighborhood group on Facebook, and Jennifer liked it and said Ricky is talking to me. In person he didn't seem about to attack, even if the picture looks like it.
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« Reply #775 on: February 17, 2018, 05:35:33 AM »
She is a real sweetie, kind and gentle...

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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #776 on: February 17, 2018, 09:57:27 AM »
Hi Steve.
As a cat person I’m sure he is really nice, you just can’t tell that from your shot! :)
By the way, do you know the breed, I’m sure with such a distinctive appearance he is not just an ordinary moggy?
My apologies if it seemed I was being down on the shot, not my intention, ever.

Cheers, Graham.

No, I didn't take it that way at all. I was just clarifying the difference between how the cat came off in real life vs. how he does in the picture. And that is an interesting thing about photography in that the shot shows what the cat looked like during just one particular 1/320 sec.

(In looking up that info, I also noticed that the 6D2 was shooting at ISO 100. You are all now prompted to gag and go on and on about the terrible DR in the picture.)

An older lady out for a walk started singing the "Siamese Cat Song" when she came up, but I don't think that's the breed. I'll ask Jennifer next time I see her out. Their hair is too short for my taste, but they are nice cats.

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« Reply #777 on: February 17, 2018, 12:05:47 PM »
That cat is a Devon Rex.
Google it up.
To my taste the PP is oversharpened and there is too much magenta in the color mix.
But I am old and getting softer these days.
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Re: Post your best portraits(street, studio, candid etc...).
« Reply #777 on: February 17, 2018, 12:05:47 PM »

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« Reply #778 on: February 17, 2018, 01:34:21 PM »
That cat is a Devon Rex.
Google it up.
To my taste the PP is oversharpened and there is too much magenta in the color mix.
But I am old and getting softer these days.

Interesting about the magenta. In real life Jennifer's face looked more so from sunburn. I may even have dialed it back a bit on her face in ACR.

As shown here, the whiskers definitely look oversharpened. I need to look to see if there are guidelines and suggestions for posting pictures here. I have a PS Action for downsampling for posting on the web, and it has some sharpening built in, and will not be optimal in all cases. For web pages I usually limit the long dimension to 1000 or 1200 pixels. Then when they post here, they show up very large, so sharpening and artifacts are blown up. The original is of course 6240 x 4160 pixels. Then I cropped a bit off the sides and reduced to make the 1200 x 1027 JPEG seen blown up here. The downsampled version is posted at http://www.stevelee.name/images/IMG_0529. Even at that size the whiskers look oversharpened, but nothing else does to me.

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« Reply #779 on: February 18, 2018, 04:16:33 PM »
As shown here, the whiskers definitely look oversharpened. I need to look to see if there are guidelines and suggestions for posting pictures here. I have a PS Action for downsampling for posting on the web, and it has some sharpening built in, and will not be optimal in all cases. For web pages I usually limit the long dimension to 1000 or 1200 pixels. Then when they post here, they show up very large, so sharpening and artifacts are blown up. The original is of course 6240 x 4160 pixels. Then I cropped a bit off the sides and reduced to make the 1200 x 1027 JPEG seen blown up here.

IMO so many images are spoilt by over zealous sharpening, and it's a problem that seems to be getting worse with the more recent cameras that have such a large native output size.

Really sharpening is best left until applied to the required output size. Personally I don't applied any sharpening to my images. I only apply, if at all, when the image is used. In fact now with the 5DS I have to actually apply blur to the images when they are being shown at a small output size. This is one of the reasons, for right or wrong, i chose the 5DS over the 5DSR.

This makes if difficult if you don't know the output size that your image is going to be used at. One of the ways to help here is perform your desired ( small hopefully !) sharpening  by converting the image to LAB colour and sharpen in the Lightness channel. When downscaled the artefacts from sharpening are somewhat reduced.

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« Reply #779 on: February 18, 2018, 04:16:33 PM »