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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2010, 02:15:40 PM »
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but just curious: why choose the 135mm f/2 over the 100 mm f/2.8 Macro IS for the same price? I did buy the 100 f/2.8 Macro and am very pleased with it. (Although I honestly haven't used the Macro capabilities that much). Is the one-stop gain in speed and extra 35mm in focal length worth more than the macro and IS? I guess it's an individual choice, but I'm just curious.

I have an 85mm f/1.8 for portraits, and am thinking about using the 135mm f/2 for the same purpose. Which is also why I don't consider the 100mm Macro. Price of the 135mm f/2 is my main concern as it is, and the reviews I've read are not kind to the 135mm f/2.8 softfocus lens.

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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2010, 02:23:46 PM »
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but just curious: why choose the 135mm f/2 over the 100 mm f/2.8 Macro IS for the same price? I did buy the 100 f/2.8 Macro and am very pleased with it. (Although I honestly haven't used the Macro capabilities that much). Is the one-stop gain in speed and extra 35mm in focal length worth more than the macro and IS? I guess it's an individual choice, but I'm just curious.

I have an 85mm f/1.8 for portraits, and am thinking about using the 135mm f/2 for the same purpose. Which is also why I don't consider the 100mm Macro. Price of the 135mm f/2 is my main concern as it is, and the reviews I've read are not kind to the 135mm f/2.8 softfocus lens.

Grap 135m L f/2 as long as you can. Otherwise Canon will introduce its II version for $1800. Another selling point for this lens is that it makes 216mm f/2 on 1.6 sensor.  200mm f/2 IS costs $5300, if we subtract $1000 for IS, then we save more than $3000!

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 03:42:27 PM »
(ist post so be gentle)
as to the 70-300L
paint it white and put a red stripe around it and someone will buy it.
but...  8.5 pounds? put that on a Mark IV and one arm is going to be longer than the other.

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2010, 08:27:43 PM »
I couldn't find the info, but does the front element extend, like the non-L version, when zooming? Going by the diagram, I think it does, but it's hard to tell and I'd be surprised if it did.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3512

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2010, 08:37:56 PM »
kenny, I'm not sure where you got the 8.5 lbs figure ... canon's press release states that it is 1050 grams, which comes out to about 2.3 lbs.  that's not bad and pretty much right in the norm for a L-class lens covering this focal distance

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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2010, 09:00:44 PM »
Well, this is disappointing for me.  I was holding off on buying the Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 hoping Canon would release an equivilent zoom at f/2.8.  I really need the f/2.8 for poorly lit, outdoor night sports events (rodeos).  The 70-200 works great on a APS-C sensor, but I prefer to shoot with my FF, and having the ability to zoom to 300mm at f/2.8 would have been perfect.

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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2010, 09:13:58 PM »
Well, this is disappointing for me.  I was holding off on buying the Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 hoping Canon would release an equivilent zoom at f/2.8.  I really need the f/2.8 for poorly lit, outdoor night sports events (rodeos).  The 70-200 works great on a APS-C sensor, but I prefer to shoot with my FF, and having the ability to zoom to 300mm at f/2.8 would have been perfect.

i got it off of B&H's site, they must have listed it wrong.  having worked with digital Hasselblads with their older zoom lens, i didn't think much about it. sorry.

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« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2010, 12:37:39 AM »
Finally, I certainly agree on the sticker shock of the new tele-extenders. I'm surprised more people haven't commented on that. From the Canon website it looks like they are dropping the old versions. I'm wondering just what will make these new ones so much better.

I think we're seeing a number of things in the new price:
1) new technology and associated R&D costs to cover
2) change in exchange rates of the Japanese Yen
3) over time, prices of goods does go up, as too do wages

I think we've all been spoilt for too long with anything related to technology always seemingly getting cheaper or at worst, staying the same price.

There are a few points to consider here:

1) The upgrades are not very popular with the participants of this site.

2) We're used to Canon raising prices by 25%-30%, not 60% or 200%. This is worsened by the above + the apparent lack of any big time improvement, such as an extra stop.

As example, when the new TS-E lenses came out, people immediately saw that it gives them another degree of freedom (= tilt and shift in two axis at the same time, rather than one), and when the new EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II USM, people were waiting for the 2 stop improvement in IS and improvement in optical performance.

In contrast, people here didn't vote for new & improved tele-extenders, they voted for an upgraded EF 24-70mm with IS. The expected result is people being unhappy about the perfectly good tele-extender prices taking a sharp price rise.

3) The economy is not blooming nowadays. E.g. there are plenty of people like me, who didn't get a raise for three years (prices kept going up, though), or like my cousin & his wife, who were unemployed for a while and have stuff to deal with now that they do have a job. Raise prices in a time like this, and you should expect people to sound, you know, grumpy.

4) The price rised rather steeply, e.g. the new 70-300 costs *three* times as much as the old one. I mean, God knows why, but those '1 for the price of 3' deals never sent customers on a stampade, especially when the economy is down.

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2010, 03:05:30 AM »
I couldn't find the info, but does the front element extend, like the non-L version, when zooming? Going by the diagram, I think it does, but it's hard to tell and I'd be surprised if it did.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3512

Look at the figure on the web site you link: At 300mm, the front element moves forward quite a bit, so yes, the lens extends as you zoom, like the non-L 70-300s and unlike the 70-200 f/2.8. At least focusing seems to be internal, so the front element does not rotate as you focus.

This is not a lens for me.

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2010, 02:07:57 AM »
Funny about the Black Cat sample image for this lens. Heck, any cheap Canon prime can do that ;D. It's not bad, but not exactly astonishing. ::)
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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2010, 05:35:04 PM »
I couldn't find the info, but does the front element extend, like the non-L version, when zooming? Going by the diagram, I think it does, but it's hard to tell and I'd be surprised if it did.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3512

Look at the figure on the web site you link: At 300mm, the front element moves forward quite a bit, so yes, the lens extends as you zoom, like the non-L 70-300s and unlike the 70-200 f/2.8. At least focusing seems to be internal, so the front element does not rotate as you focus.

This is not a lens for me.

yup the lens extends out.  found these pictures of the pre-prod model today:

http://www.ronmartblog.com/2010/09/sneak-peek-canon-ef-70-300-f4-56l-is.html

just outta curiosity why isn't this lens for you /dev/null?  i'm actually interested in buying a tele-zoom lens (as i don't have one) and thought this would be a good one.  thoughts/suggestions?

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2010, 06:16:12 AM »
I'm very interested in this new lens, except for the weight and the price! Oh well..

I think it may be time to grab the non-L 70-300mm IS now: http://www.aputure.com/blog/2010/09/09/new-canon-l-lenses/

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2010, 06:35:51 PM »
I confused about the information that the 70-300 IS is not listed on the Canon page anymore. It's on the CanonUSA website:  http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_is_usm


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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2010, 09:52:15 PM »
I confused about the information that the 70-300 IS is not listed on the Canon page anymore.

It was a Canon USA website error; the non-L version disappeared from the lineup for a few days. That happens sometimes when new lens pages are posted.

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Re: Canon Announces 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2010, 10:07:58 AM »
I don't see what all the negative responses to this lens are all about. If the quality is there its price doesn't seem out of line with all of Canon's other recent introductions. Yeah it's maybe on the expensive side, but if the quality is there, especially wide open on the long end,  it doesn't seem outlandish. It seems like it would be an excellent and versatile little lens for hiking and travel. It's compact and rugged, covers a wide range, focuses close, and has the improved IS. It seems like a useful professional tool, which is hopefully what it was designed to be. There are plenty of less expensive alternatives out there.

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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2010, 10:07:58 AM »