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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2013, 03:27:57 PM »
The big megapickle camera will not be branded as the 1DSx, for the exact same reason that, lo these many years ago, the compact Mac with a 68030 CPU was branded an SE/30 instead of, in keeping with the IIx and the IIcx, the SEx.

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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2013, 03:29:07 PM »
The big megapickle camera will not be branded as the 1DSx, for the exact same reason that, lo these many years ago, the compact Mac with a 68030 CPU was branded an SE/30 instead of, in keeping with the IIx and the IIcx, the SEx.

How about 1D Xs?
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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2013, 03:31:41 PM »
How about 1D Xs?

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2013, 03:34:28 PM »
Then we reach a point where our house cats' whiskers can take up 2MP each! :P
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2013, 04:33:03 PM »
I'm anxiously waiting for / saving for the 7d2.  Sadly, I'd order today if it were available, without knowing the specs.  My expectation is that it will be targeted at the sports photographer, continue to be APS-C, and have significantly improved high ISO performance and somewhat improved focusing.  I'm hoping for a price point in the $2,000 - $2,500 range.   

For me, I'm wanting for a new sports photography setup, and am quite happy with the 5d2 for landscape/portrait photography.  Having 2 bodies (although quite different in nature), provides a measure of insurance. 

Fingers crossed for a quick announcement and release....
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« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2013, 04:39:44 PM »
I'm anxiously waiting for / saving for the 7d2.  Sadly, I'd order today if it were available, without knowing the specs.  My expectation is that it will be targeted at the sports photographer, continue to be APS-C, and have significantly improved high ISO performance and somewhat improved focusing.  I'm hoping for a price point in the $2,000 - $2,500 range.   

For me, I'm wanting for a new sports photography setup, and am quite happy with the 5d2 for landscape/portrait photography.  Having 2 bodies (although quite different in nature), provides a measure of insurance. 

Fingers crossed for a quick announcement and release....

Rich,

To go off your point, when the 1DX was announced, part of me was a bit disappointed in that I was really looking for a 1D Mark IV replacement; one with APS-H 1.3x crop factor, with improved high ISO performance.  If the 7D Mark II let's say, can shoot shots with NR that look good at ISO 5000-6400, it'll be popular for sure!
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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2013, 04:48:00 PM »
I'd certainly upgrade my 7D to a 7D Mark II with the same frame rate as the 1D4 and much better IQ than the current 7D.  I like being able to keep the 1.6x reach that I would have sacrificed to 1.3x with a 1D4 or give up with a 1Dx.  If the 7D2 is half the price of a 1Dx or less, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2013, 05:00:21 PM »
The 1Dsx will do for me provided Canon manage to leapfrog Nikons current world beating performance with the 800E. If they can achieve that, then I will be in heaven, if not, then its goodbye Canon. I'm not hanging about if they continue to produce cameras with noise and banding issues but with excessive ISO figures.

Having said that, my present 5DII is OK for the moment, so I would rather they spent more time getting it right than a rushed "knee jerk reaction".

Just interested, what do you think an $8,000+ 38+MP camera will do for you when you can currently live with a $1,300 21MP 5D MkII? What do you shoot now, and what do you do with your output that would necessitate such an upscale?

Pixel-peep and read DxO charts. That's the current trend for 'photographers' these days, at least from what I've been seeing in here. :P

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2013, 05:02:21 PM »
The big megapickle camera will not be branded as the 1DSx, for the exact same reason that, lo these many years ago, the compact Mac with a 68030 CPU was branded an SE/30 instead of, in keeping with the IIx and the IIcx, the SEx.

How about 1D Xs?

If only because Canon didn't learn from the naming confusion between 1Ds and 1D then yes.

Pity that when it comes to camera names Canon are incredibly so unimaginative.

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« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2013, 05:07:26 PM »
I'd certainly upgrade my 7D to a 7D Mark II with the same frame rate as the 1D4 and much better IQ than the current 7D.  I like being able to keep the 1.6x reach that I would have sacrificed to 1.3x with a 1D4 or give up with a 1Dx.  If the 7D2 is half the price of a 1Dx or less, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.

Well, at ISO 800, you actually have more "reach" with the 1D4 than the 7D, because IQ is so much superior on the 1D4, you can crop beyond the 7D cropping.
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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2013, 05:12:15 PM »
Does anyone read Japanese well enough to know what it is saying about the X6i?

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2013, 05:14:38 PM »
The big megapickle camera will not be branded as the 1DSx, for the exact same reason that, lo these many years ago, the compact Mac with a 68030 CPU was branded an SE/30 instead of, in keeping with the IIx and the IIcx, the SEx.

How about 1D Xs?

If only because Canon didn't learn from the naming confusion between 1Ds and 1D then yes.

Pity that when it comes to camera names Canon are incredibly so unimaginative.

Confusing only for the people who couldn't afford to buy it. I don't know anyone who mistakenly bought one for the other.

So what do you suggest Canon name the new body?

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2013, 05:18:17 PM »
I'd certainly upgrade my 7D to a 7D Mark II with the same frame rate as the 1D4 and much better IQ than the current 7D.  I like being able to keep the 1.6x reach that I would have sacrificed to 1.3x with a 1D4 or give up with a 1Dx.  If the 7D2 is half the price of a 1Dx or less, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.

Well, at ISO 800, you actually have more "reach" with the 1D4 than the 7D, because IQ is so much superior on the 1D4, you can crop beyond the 7D cropping.

And the 1D X is a further step up from the 1DIV for ISO performance - you can crop a 1D X image to the 7D FoV and have better IQ, albeit with fewer MP. 

The argument is much like, 'I'd go FF if there was an equivalent to the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS,' stated by people who are blissfully unaware that the 24-105mm f/4L IS on FF is wider, longer, and effectively faster.
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« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2013, 05:18:17 PM »

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2013, 05:59:07 PM »
I'd certainly upgrade my 7D to a 7D Mark II with the same frame rate as the 1D4 and much better IQ than the current 7D.  I like being able to keep the 1.6x reach that I would have sacrificed to 1.3x with a 1D4 or give up with a 1Dx.  If the 7D2 is half the price of a 1Dx or less, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.

Well, at ISO 800, you actually have more "reach" with the 1D4 than the 7D, because IQ is so much superior on the 1D4, you can crop beyond the 7D cropping.

It's not so easy.... you have a camera and a lens... the lens used will affect how much cropping you can get away with and the lighting as well.

A full frame camera will visibly outperform an APS-C camera under poor lighting, but under good lighting the difference is much less apparent.

If you are using a cheap lens, you will not have the resolving power of a quality lens. A while ago I compared an 18-200 against the 100L. My target was the page of a book. The 18-200 at 100 could not resolve words, and at 200 you could guess what the words were. The 100L was able to resolve the words. In other words, a good 100mm lens had longer reach than a poor 200mm lens.

I then compared a 5DII against a 60D, both using the same 400 5.6 lens, and moved the book away until I had problems resolving. In daylight, (i think it was at ISO200 but not sure) the 60D out resolved the 5DII, but as the light dimmed, (i think using ISO1600) the 5DII out resolved the 60D....

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Re: Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2013, 06:00:28 PM »
hmm looks like the big MP will be an expensive brick then, I wonder how that compares to D800

it may be a stunning camera but twice the price, size and weight of D800 might make it a bit of a tougher sell
so much for the never, ever a 1Dsx too  ;)

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