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BLOWN away.
« on: January 05, 2013, 08:16:15 AM »
http://rx1files.tumblr.com/

This is from a pocket camera!!!

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 09:12:09 AM »
Really? At $2,800 without the $600 viewfinder I think your point is misplaced. Why wouldn't any camera with a 135 sized sensor put out 135 format IQ?

The lens alone is worth more than 1000$, so 1800$ is not too bad for a FF body.

Plus, you pay the premium for a momentarily unique product. 

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 09:20:37 AM »
Really? At $2,800 without the $600 viewfinder I think your point is misplaced. Why wouldn't any camera with a 135 sized sensor put out 135 format IQ?

That is $3400 with viewfinder...PLUS..no battery charger $27
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/01/04/quick-tip-for-sony-rx100-and-rx1-owners-nice-external-charger-and-batteries
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It is impressive IQ...I will give you that!
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 09:31:13 AM »
I am talking purely of this awesome IQ from a a pocket size camera. I am very impressed.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 10:21:44 AM »
That guru of all things photographic, Ken Rockwell  :o, has this to say on the RX1:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

Seems a bit over-priced to me but that never stopped me running out and buying the latest gizmo that I felt I needed to make life (momentarily) better.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 10:28:42 AM »
Ken is always lolful.

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Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro friends always shoot and as I think is the RX1's default, the RX1 does everything it can to shoot everything in most light at 1/80 and f/4.

I thought P was program mode :D

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The other deal-breaker for me is second-rate color rendition. Sure, colors look fine to 99% of the general public who buy this, but to a Colorist like me for whom color is everything, the colors don't sing anywhere near as well as they do on my Nikons or Canons. In fact, my iPhone 5 even has better color rendition.

I'm an artist. When I speak of color rendition, I'm speaking of how well the camera interprets reality, not laboratory accuracy. Lab accuracy isn't relevant to me — I just need the photos to look great! right out of the camera.

That's a lot even for his standards.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 10:35:08 AM »
Leica makes very small cameras. ;)

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 10:35:31 AM »
Hey Albi, be careful, he's an artist!

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 10:48:45 AM »

The lens alone is worth more than 1000$, so 1800$ is not too bad for a FF body.

Plus, you pay the premium for a momentarily unique product.
How did you price a P&S lens?  Its not interchangable, and, when the camera dies, so does the lens.  Prices for P&S lenses are not the same as for interchangable lenses.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 10:54:53 AM »
Really? At $2,800 without the $600 viewfinder I think your point is misplaced. Why wouldn't any camera with a 135 sized sensor put out 135 format IQ?

And what do you think was my point? Just asking.

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 11:26:31 AM »
Really? At $2,800 without the $600 viewfinder I think your point is misplaced. Why wouldn't any camera with a 135 sized sensor put out 135 format IQ?

And what do you think was my point? Just asking.

Well, I probably misinterpreted the title, BLOWN away, you probably meant you are impressed with the IQ, but as I said, why would it not have the IQ of any other 135 format sensor? But as written, "BLOWN away", could be interpreted, especially in this Canon forum, as meaning Canon has been blown away by Sony, to which my answer is, for that money they are in a sector by themselves, and lets not be silly, you cannot escape the price of the RX1.

Either way, the output and size is what I would expect from that format sensor in a mirrorless body with a fixed lens, hence, I am not BLOWN away, or even that impressed, particularly given the price.

:) Now I understand your confusion. Yep I meant I was blown away by this IQ from a pocket size camera. I am just very impressed by how technology has progressed. Cost factor or not. To have a camera that I can slip into my coat pocket and get this IQ does impress (blow :))  ) me away.

Is there anything else that can do this for its size?

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 12:48:54 PM »
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The other deal-breaker for me is second-rate color rendition. Sure, colors look fine to 99% of the general public who buy this, but to a Colorist like me for whom color is everything, the colors don't sing anywhere near as well as they do on my Nikons or Canons. In fact, my iPhone 5 even has better color rendition.

I'm an artist. When I speak of color rendition, I'm speaking of how well the camera interprets reality, not laboratory accuracy. Lab accuracy isn't relevant to me — I just need the photos to look great! right out of the camera.

That's a lot even for his standards.

his "standards" are +maximum on saturation.
and he is shooting JPG´s.

the guys a clown nothing more.

i guess 90% here know that... but i always find it dangerous to quote "ken "oh the colors" rockwell without making that crystal clear.

Full Disclosure - I get a kick out of reading Ken.  I think many take him too literally, half of his stuff is meant in a satirical way and the other half is often not too far off.  Most folks don't need most of the high end crap that is marketed to death every year by the big camera names.  If people want to spend the high $$ because they can afford it, great.  But honestly, if someone knows what they're doing, they can create great images with a rebel and a decent EF lens or two.  D series bodies and L lenses aren't required.  (Except for the 5Dc, that was a game changer for me and it won't break the bank either.)

That being said however, I also smirked when I was reading his comment (quoted above) about the color rendition, him being an artist, etc because I immediately thought the same thing as you:  high saturation colors.  However, that's his style.  I don't fault him for it, that's just his thing.
Yes, but what would  surapon  say ??  :D

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 02:32:37 PM »
Hey Albi, be careful, he's an artist!

(smirk).
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 04:59:12 PM »
http://rx1files.tumblr.com/

This is from a pocket camera!!!


I don't see it as quite a pocket camera. A big jacket pocket, maybe. Is it a LOT smaller than the rest of the FF SLRs? Yea, for sure! It's quite small, but it's still bigger than a pocket camera. Gotta fit in my jeans pocket for me to call it pocketable.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 06:28:32 PM »
"Gotta fit in my jeans pocket for me to call it pocketable."....
guess it depends on who is wearing the jeans, no?
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 06:28:32 PM »