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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2013, 04:41:17 PM »
Would this lens work with a canon 1.4 extender??
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2013, 04:41:17 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2013, 06:26:22 PM »
the official price in germany is 3999,- €. You can get this information on the official site of sigma germany.
http://www.sigma-foto.de/produkte/objektive/120-300mm-f28-dg-os-hsm.html

perhaps the street price will be cheaper in a few weeks - when we see in serveral tests, if this lens is worth this very high price.

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2013, 06:58:08 PM »
Beside a new cosmetic treatment, it's the exact same 120-300 launched in 2011, no mechanic or optic change ;)

But a very good lens, very sharp ! only con, pretty heavy...

and they have added weather sealling to the rings switches and mount!
thats worth it right there.
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 08:01:37 PM »
Wait, wasn't this already announced back in September?
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=9491.0

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2013, 08:27:25 PM »
Yes it was announced then but now it is released (i.e. in production and in stores to buy).

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2013, 08:36:23 PM »
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What is this lens?  I thought they already had a lens that was 120-300 2.8 with OS?   I have the 120-300 2.8 non OS and I know there was already a newer version out?   I'm very confused....

Same new version with a very few changes...
Excepting the price, of course.  The old version has dropped to $3,000, the new version will be at least $3500.

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2013, 08:52:52 PM »
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What is this lens?  I thought they already had a lens that was 120-300 2.8 with OS?   I have the 120-300 2.8 non OS and I know there was already a newer version out?   I'm very confused....

Same new version with a very few changes...
Excepting the price, of course.  The old version has dropped to $3,000, the new version will be at least $3500.

I've seen several people on here query the price.

Am I on the only one that read the entire story and saw this line (it appears twice in the story):

Preorder the Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 DG OS HSM for $3599

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2013, 08:52:52 PM »

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2013, 05:05:32 AM »
Am I on the only one that read the entire story and saw this line (it appears twice in the story):

Preorder the Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 DG OS HSM for $3599
The price was added to the article at a later stage :)

It is definitely gonna be heavier (2.8kg vs 1,5kg)
Has the weight been confirmed somewhere or is that the previous version?
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2013, 01:16:20 AM »
I am really interested in this lens, too, although it seems that aside from the exterior design and the focus limiter, nothing has changed from the previous 120-300 2.8 OS.
But what has changed significantly, though, is the price... in Germany the old one is 2999€, the "new" one 3999€. If this premium translates more or less directly into street prices (the old one has just dropped below the 2000€ barrier recently), I will probably look elsewhere.
For anyone interested in review, Photozone has one on 5DMk2:
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/629-sigma120300f28oseos

Well worth the read, my summary: Great center sharpness, on par with 70-200 IS 2.8 II, borders not so great. Good bokeh, and -- being an apochromat -- virtually no green/purple fringing.
I handled the old 120-300 2.8 OS once in a store, and at 3kg it is really a behemoth.

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2013, 03:35:45 AM »
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What is this lens?  I thought they already had a lens that was 120-300 2.8 with OS?   I have the 120-300 2.8 non OS and I know there was already a newer version out?   I'm very confused....


Same new version with a very few changes...

Excepting the price, of course.  The old version has dropped to $3,000, the new version will be at least $3500.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRAND-NEW-OZ-WARRANTY-SIGMA-APO-120-300MM-F2-8-EX-DG-OS-HSM-LENS-FOR-CANON-/180988355659?pt=AU_Lenses&hash=item2a23bf244b

the old / current not as cool looking version can actually be had much cheaper at a bit under $2400!
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2013, 05:21:17 AM »
If this lens remains optically the same as the old model, and now costs $3500, aren't I better off (I.e. sharper, more compact, lighter and more versatile), with a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II and a Canon 1.4X III?  After reading reviews of the current Sigma's IQ (which will stay the same for the new lens), at The Photozone and The Digital Picture...it seems to me that the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II is that much sharper. I would also be saving a bundle of money! Am I missing something???
I would be missing 20mm of reach...that is about it.
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2013, 10:00:29 AM »
How do you reckon it will stack against a EF 70-200 mk.ii +1.4TC?

Actually, in my opinion a Canon 70-200 f2.8 L IS II is a better choice.
This lens is heavy and bulky. It doesn't have the AF accuracy that the Canon has. It matches it of sharpness and IQ, but it drastically looses focal length as the focus ring draws into min focus distance. At a short focus distance, it's down to about 240mm and isn't really an f2.8 either...so i think that a 70-200 is a better choice. Even at infinity focus, it's not much more than a 280mm. It's a nice lens, but there are better options and don't be fooled by what it says on the tin....ie 300mm @f2.8...yeah right!

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2013, 10:16:04 AM »
Actually, in my opinion a Canon 70-200 f2.8 L IS II is a better choice.
I think I'd agree - have experience with neither - but do realize that an 1.4 extender takes away 50% of your focus speed, so the "98-280" is a good deal slower than just the 70-200. Also, they don't overly affect IQ, but it is visible.
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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2013, 10:16:04 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2013, 11:33:35 AM »
I actually have both the Sigma 120-300 DG without OS and the 70-200 II so I can attest to the comparison.  With a Canon TCII, the images at the long end are similarly sharp wide open.   That is a comparison of f/2.8 vs. 4.  At f/4, the Sigma is perhaps slightly sharper, at least at the center.   AF is somewhat slower with the TC.   As for AF accuracy, on my lenses the Siggy misses about 10% more compared to the Canon w/o TC when shooting at 2.8.  This older version is even heavier that the OS versions.   It needs a monopod or tripod for sure.   My choice of lens is often dictated by the venue and conditions (older Siggy's are not sealed).

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2013, 01:27:34 PM »
It was annoying that they did not include a focus limiter switch, and it's painful to see that they've now changed the design (and at such a price) to include what should've been there.  However, I feel that when I'm careful I can usually work around this problem.
Based on my experience and observations, the resulting images would not be acceptable.
That's not been my experience.  Did you look at the teleconverter-attached images at POTN forums?  With the EF Extender III I rarely have any problem with the 2011 version.

If you are shooting with a camera with smaller pixel pitch than the 7D and need critical resolution then there may be a problem.  Occasionally the images seem somewhat less than critically sharp - but only at 1:1 magnification (discounting focus errors of course).  I've got a good number of shots that are more than acceptably sharp in my view.  The weakness of the lens and TC combination comes when shooting at somewhat longer ranges against a busy background - occasionally (such as an image across a swamp / small lake) I have gotten an unacceptably busy rendition of OOF backgrounds.  No doubt the 200-400 will excel in this area, hopefully even with the TC active.

The 200-400 will be the single-lens option for wildlife if you cannot afford to remove the lens in the field (I admit this is somewhat burdensome to change), but 120-200mm has been useful surprisingly often and f/2.8 even more so.

After all these considerations, I would be reluctant to toss out the 120-300 entirely in favor of the 200-400 TC 1.4 - especially as it seems to excel in relatively close-up to medium range photography (although you have to work around the minimum focus distance - 1.5m at the wide end, and 2.5m at the far end - it is able to focus closer than many other lenses in this range).  The price on  the original model couldn't be beaten, either - maybe one of the better lens deals in recent times, and I hope the price increase doesn't reflect Sigma's belief they sold the original too cheaply.  I was definitely limited by funds to that lens, however, and for that reason the 120-300 + TC combination will still be tempting compared to the 200-400mm.  It seems to handily beat consumer-oriented lenses in the 1X0-400mm and 1X0-5X0 (etc.) ranges.

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Re: Sigma Launches the 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2013, 01:27:34 PM »