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Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« on: January 08, 2013, 06:06:00 PM »
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/01/08/fuji-x100s-and-fuji-x20-claim-blazing-autofocus-and-innovation


I have been saving for a Fuji X-E1 but these make me want to rethink that because the main complaint of the X-E1 and X-Pro1 has been the AF is a tad slow and the lack of good workflow (being solved with next iteration of capture one pro)

If they update the X-E1 with this new AF I am definitely sold not to mention the slew of other features better sensor 1080p60 focus peaking

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Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« on: January 08, 2013, 06:06:00 PM »

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 09:05:34 PM »
not really until they fix their appalling customer service...

nice tech, nice retro look, but have any problems with it and its a real PITA
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 09:51:45 PM »
Intrigued? Yes.

Love the look of the X20. I'll wait to see what the reviews say. The X10 was said to have a fairly pathetic viewfinder. Supposedly, they've improved that. I've toyed with the X10 and the G1X. Neither has convinced me, but Fuji may be getting closer with the X20.
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 09:59:58 PM »
Definitely, maybe buy both....currently have X10 as my walkaround, amazing little camera....have been putting off on purchasing the X100 until I saw what was to come next, now the X100s will be in my kit at some point soon..

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:55 PM »
I am intrigued by the X100S.  Fuji seems to have addressed every problem of the original X100.  The list of improvements is very impressive.  They seem to have extracted the best suggestions from various X100 user wishlists and said "Build it!". 

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 10:18:31 PM »
Seems like the X-Pro 2 is the camera that everybody is going to like the most.
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 10:32:25 PM »
Actually, my experience with Fujifilm's customer service is nothing short of exceptional. I'd had picked up an X10 earlier last year. It had the white orbs issue. In September, I'd sent it back for service. A little more than a week later they sent me a brand new X10 as replacement. It can't get any better than that.

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 10:52:24 PM »
Curious what this means for the x pro, obviously Fuji isn't resting on their laurels so I could see myself with one of these puppies by year end 2013.

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 10:52:54 PM »
Actually, my experience with Fujifilm's customer service is nothing short of exceptional. I'd had picked up an X10 earlier last year. It had the white orbs issue. In September, I'd sent it back for service. A little more than a week later they sent me a brand new X10 as replacement. It can't get any better than that.

mine had the issue went back 5 times and it spent months going back and forth always came back with other things broken on off zoom ring etc after they eventually agreed to replace the sensor then it had the iso 200 EXR bad noise issue where the noise was like iso 6400 in the particular shooting condition i used the most so it was basically useless eventually the shop just gave me a credit and i returned it and put the credit towards the EOS-M but Fuji Australia customer service could be vastly different to other countries
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 11:05:25 PM »
the x100s sounds pretty amazing so far! I picked up an x-e1 myself and I absolutely love it. The pictures it can produce are just stunning.

Menus, controls, build, compactness and picture quality is up there with the best imo and it is making me really rethink owning a big dslr set up.
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 01:00:05 AM »
I have a feeling that the new XTrans II sensor is going to be a game changer.
The fact that the have on-chip phase AF is going to radically change things in the AF speed department.
They are also adding a new processor chip, claiming a big improvement in IQ over the original sensor.

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100s/features/page_02.html

Add these facts together + the first RAW convertors showing up like CaptureOne and we are going to have the best FF IQ (like D800E) from a smaller, cheaper camera.
I can already get sharper images out of my X-Pro1 or XE-1 + the 35mm F/1.4 than any lens I've tried on my 5D MK3 and I have the new 24-70 F/2.8 II and and a 70-200 F/2.8 II and returned a Sigma 35 F/1.4 and have tried a host of others including Zeiss.

Oh yeah and adding focus peaking is the icing for manual focusing of old lenses.
There's a bit of magic you get from old Range Finder lenses that is sadly lacking from the modern DSLR

I have my preorder in for the X100s and I'll sell my X-Pro 1 and wait for the X-Pro 2 announcement in September...

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 01:18:26 AM »
I AM!
First need to sell my X100. Then decide between X100s and the RX1. RX1 seems to have much better quality but no viewfinder....

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 01:32:17 AM »
I love all kinds of cameras and have been lusting for one of these new Fujis for a while.  Altho I've seen an earlier model best my 5D2 for IQ at times I was just not familiar enough with them. The cost was high, and the raw workflow would be another direction I'd have to change; too many little factors held me back from purchasing.  I did like the way the X100 felt in my hand, if a tad "light."

The new X20 is hitting a price point where I could justify yet another camera in my collection and figure out what niche it best fills later.

Definitely not going to forget about Fuji now!

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 01:56:05 AM »
I seriously doubt that the RX-1 will have much better IQ, but we'll have to wait for the reviews.
I think the new sensor and processor + RAW convertor support will actually surpass it, but hey, I'm a huge Fuji fan.
Oh BTW, the Fuji glass has a built in 3 stop ND filter that can be activated at will - nice :)

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 02:22:31 AM »
It's hard not to be intrigued by the x100s. The only thing I am a bit sceptical about is the lens or the DOF, respectively. But no doubt, when it comes to listening to the customers who are into IQ apart from bulky DSLRs and to keeping the prices comparable low, than Fuji is well ahead of the competition.

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 02:22:31 AM »