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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #210 on: March 11, 2014, 09:23:23 AM »
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #210 on: March 11, 2014, 09:23:23 AM »

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #211 on: March 11, 2014, 09:47:46 AM »
My complaint has always been, the numbers, while calculated, are irrelevant, and I have never seen ANYONE provide any reasonable proof of meaning.

As a test:

Which would you rather own and which will provide a better picture:

Nikon D3s or a Nikon D3300

According to DXO Marks these cameras score the same. 

Is the D3s a better camera?
Will it produce better images?

If you chose the D3s, and since DXO gives them the same score, you have some 'splainin to do


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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #212 on: March 11, 2014, 11:23:20 AM »
It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has  lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic  signal chain = older  sensor tech  that was at the peak 10 years ago  and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here  are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today
There we go ::)



Given the antagonistic writing style and that the member/posts have been removed I guess the serial pest that shall not be named has been back again lol  Good efficient work mods!

Wow! He was found out without having used "motive" in any of his posts? Looks like the mods have been working overtime!  ;D ;D
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #213 on: March 11, 2014, 12:19:35 PM »
[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #214 on: March 11, 2014, 12:53:23 PM »
You mean Whinnie the Pooh was He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named  ???     ?

BOY I am gonna get me one of those Zeiss Otus 58 1.4s !! Have you seen what that lens has done for his photography ?

Who said "gear doesn't matter" ?  :-X

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #215 on: March 11, 2014, 01:09:57 PM »
[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

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Hilarious!
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #216 on: March 11, 2014, 03:21:06 PM »
[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

Cat Herders

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #216 on: March 11, 2014, 03:21:06 PM »

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #217 on: March 11, 2014, 11:43:36 PM »
[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

LOL :D

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #218 on: March 11, 2014, 11:48:43 PM »
You mean Whinnie the Pooh was He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named  ???     ?

BOY I am gonna get me one of those Zeiss Otus 58 1.4s !! Have you seen what that lens has done for his photography ?

Who said "gear doesn't matter" ?  :-X

You guys do realize he used the name Nalle Puh on multiple occasions previously, right?

And I agree, the Otus was like his "yellow sun"...it supercharged his photography.

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #219 on: March 12, 2014, 12:15:32 AM »
It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions  :P
I'm pretty sure I have seen him with yet another alias a while ago. That makes three at least.

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #220 on: March 12, 2014, 01:57:14 AM »
It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions  :P
I'm pretty sure I have seen him with yet another alias a while ago. That makes three at least.
I wonder why he is so desperate to be on this site ... but again, I too am on a rumor site discussing all kinds of not so essential stuff  :-[ ... I guess the only consolation/justification for me is that I am not banned ;D
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #221 on: March 13, 2014, 04:05:01 AM »
Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it.  According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening.  I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe.  I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?
I use noise reduction on many images, I guess some people would like to argue that it is not noise reduction and that it is is only "image softening", maybe it makes them look intelligent if they use an alternative word then what the software developer has chosen to name it ... I know some people call landing the flight a "controlled fall" coz it makes them look intelligent ... maybe they are just pessimistic people who cannot build any useful software or hardware but would like to come across as intelligent people with "clever" words to describe everything - or maybe they just want attention  ;D

I'll defer to your expertise on that :D  How come you didn't come to my defense back then?  Or maybe you did, I forget.

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2014, 04:54:49 AM »
Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it.  According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening.  I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe.  I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?
I use noise reduction on many images, I guess some people would like to argue that it is not noise reduction and that it is is only "image softening", maybe it makes them look intelligent if they use an alternative word then what the software developer has chosen to name it ... I know some people call landing the flight a "controlled fall" coz it makes them look intelligent ... maybe they are just pessimistic people who cannot build any useful software or hardware but would like to come across as intelligent people with "clever" words to describe everything - or maybe they just want attention  ;D

I'll defer to your expertise on that :D  How come you didn't come to my defense back then?  Or maybe you did, I forget.
;D ;D ;D ... actually I don't even know which thread it was ... sorry, next time I shall come to your defense .. but I charge a very nominal fee for defending other people's posts, I was thinking a Sony 10-18mm lens ;D
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2014, 04:54:49 AM »

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #223 on: March 13, 2014, 05:10:00 AM »
Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it.  According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening.  I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe.  I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?
I use noise reduction on many images, I guess some people would like to argue that it is not noise reduction and that it is is only "image softening", maybe it makes them look intelligent if they use an alternative word then what the software developer has chosen to name it ... I know some people call landing the flight a "controlled fall" coz it makes them look intelligent ... maybe they are just pessimistic people who cannot build any useful software or hardware but would like to come across as intelligent people with "clever" words to describe everything - or maybe they just want attention  ;D

I'll defer to your expertise on that :D  How come you didn't come to my defense back then?  Or maybe you did, I forget.
;D ;D ;D ... actually I don't even know which thread it was ... sorry, next time I shall come to your defense .. but I charge a very nominal fee for defending other people's posts, I was thinking a Sony 10-18mm lens ;D

Haha, is that supposed to be a good lens?

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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
« Reply #224 on: March 13, 2014, 06:49:23 AM »
Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it.  According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening.  I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe.  I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?
I use noise reduction on many images, I guess some people would like to argue that it is not noise reduction and that it is is only "image softening", maybe it makes them look intelligent if they use an alternative word then what the software developer has chosen to name it ... I know some people call landing the flight a "controlled fall" coz it makes them look intelligent ... maybe they are just pessimistic people who cannot build any useful software or hardware but would like to come across as intelligent people with "clever" words to describe everything - or maybe they just want attention  ;D

I'll defer to your expertise on that :D  How come you didn't come to my defense back then?  Or maybe you did, I forget.
;D ;D ;D ... actually I don't even know which thread it was ... sorry, next time I shall come to your defense .. but I charge a very nominal fee for defending other people's posts, I was thinking a Sony 10-18mm lens ;D

Haha, is that supposed to be a good lens?
Its an ok lens for Sony's crop sensored mirrorless cameras ... I was planning on buying it, to use, for times when I don't want to take my 5D MK III + 16-35, especially during business trips ... also recently our office moved to the downtown area of the city where there lots of skyscrapers, so I wanted an easy to carry/portable lens to capture the landscape of the concrete jungle here + I plan on getting the Sony a6000 during the end of April or early May, so the Sony 10-18 would be a nice fit for that camera, meanwhile it can also be used as a 12-17mm full frame lens on my Sony a7.
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Re: Why the DxO bashing?
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