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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #135 on: January 16, 2013, 05:16:08 PM »
Oh here we go......    ::)

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #135 on: January 16, 2013, 05:16:08 PM »

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #136 on: January 16, 2013, 05:34:55 PM »
Do you own these cameras or are you quoting the internet?

You see most of my equipment under to the left - and I already stated that the dr comparison is from the traumflieger review. Also see here, the 6d has ~1 more stop of dr at higher iso: http://www.sensorgen.info/ ... though of course I cannot verify the validity of their testing and methods.

iso 100:
5d2 - 11.2 dr
5d3 - 11.0 dr (like 6d @iso 800)
6d - 11.5 dr

iso 6400:
5d2 - 8.3 dr
5d3 - 8.5 dr
6d - 9.3 dr

The said review is very definite on the spatial resolution test, and at least this falls in line with what the CR user mst (Canon beta tester) often wrote and what I've seen myself when looking at 5d2/5d3 sample raw shots.

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #137 on: January 16, 2013, 06:04:34 PM »
Do you own these cameras or are you quoting the internet?

You see most of my equipment under to the left - and I already stated that the dr comparison is from the traumflieger review. Also see here, the 6d has ~1 more stop of dr at higher iso: http://www.sensorgen.info/ ... though of course I cannot verify the validity of their testing and methods.

iso 100:
5d2 - 11.2 dr
5d3 - 11.0 dr (like 6d @iso 800)
6d - 11.5 dr

iso 6400:
5d2 - 8.3 dr
5d3 - 8.5 dr
6d - 9.3 dr

The said review is very definite on the spatial resolution test, and at least this falls in line with what the CR user mst (Canon beta tester) often wrote and what I've seen myself when looking at 5d2/5d3 sample raw shots.

when i first got my 5dmk3 and compared it to the mk2 i was super disappointed because i was only looking at pure unedited raw files

the 5d2 files were sharper when pixel peeping however after having used the 2 camera side by side for over a year now i have to say absolutely the 5Dmk3 files respond much better to post processing they can be sharpened more without artifacts occuring the files respond much better to noise reduction at any iso as the noise is cleaner and less blocky, it has a more organic film grain feel and as I said there is definately more recoverable highlight headroom when exposing to the right.

Just be carefull quoting the internet categorically without actually having first hand experience

the 5dmk2 still makes nice images for sure but the 5Dmk3 is better accross the board in every single respect
except maybe the silly picture review zoom

I put less than zero credability into any of these back of the lens cap naval gazing DR tests people seem obsessed about.

I'm talking about real world shooting real world processing and real world results.
i havent used a 6D so i wont comment on its real world abilities however the camera doesnt really meet my needs and the 5Dmk3 far exceeds it in a significant number of areas that are significant to me
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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2013, 06:26:39 PM »
Just be carefull quoting the internet categorically without actually having first hand experience

Thanks for the information concerning your 5d3 experiences, it's in line with what I've read here before. Though I don't think a "hands on" experience is necessarily more valid than a research across multiple sources, just because it's published on the Internet doesn't mean it has to be wrong.... and btw what you're writing is in the Internet, too :-p

I put less than zero credability into any of these back of the lens cap naval gazing DR tests people seem obsessed about.

Me, too (believe it or not :-)), I already wrote the differences are too tiny to really matter - I only mentioned it because a user wrote that newer cameras necessarily have a better sensor across all aspects, and this simply isn't correct.

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2013, 06:54:33 PM »
I only mentioned it because a user wrote that newer cameras necessarily have a better sensor across all aspects, and this simply isn't correct.
I must have missed that because I haven't seen where anybody said a newer camera necessarily have a better sensor across all aspects. 

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2013, 07:01:54 PM »
I must have missed that because I haven't seen where anybody said a newer camera necessarily have a better sensor across all aspects.

Oh my, please don't be too picky, I don't deliberate too long over everything I write here and it's a recreational rumors thread - but there was talk of "significant iq improvements" somewhere in the vicinity of your name :-> ... I read this not only concerning snr and thus responded also to dr/sharpness, please do forgive me if I misunderstood.

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Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2013, 07:01:54 PM »