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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2013, 08:50:49 PM »
well... all i can say here is it is all about political things during contract bid...

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2013, 09:35:55 PM »
NASA doesn't send people into space any more. This is irrelevant

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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2013, 09:50:33 PM »
I would have thought a bigger camera (like a Hasselblad) would be easier to use.  But I'm sure NASA know what they're doing.  Felix Baumgartner uses Canon if that makes people feel better.
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2013, 10:21:27 PM »
NASA also uses a different brand of toilet for their astronauts to take a dump ... oh, no we've been 5hittin in the wrong brand of toilet ;D
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2013, 11:42:52 PM »
NASA folks are very meticulous about making sure that what they spend dollars on will do the intended job.  Could be that their criteria aren't the same as the typical consumer or even the Earth-bound professional photographer.  When you're spending thousands of dollars per pound to get people and equipment into orbit, the purchase cost of the gear is only one factor in selection.

For example, here are two factors that go into selecting equipment for space - 1) resistance to radiation (gamma rays, alpha particles, heavy ions in solar wind, tolerance to accumlate dose, etc.) and 2) how the equipment behaves in the ultra-harsh environments (shock, vibration, temperature extremes, lack of humidity, lack of atmospheric pressure, etc.).

Most of us don't have these at the top of our list as to what we look for in a camera and accessories.

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 01:55:47 AM »
As mentioned, Nikon has been very innovative in the past to meet the demands of NASA, like the long roll Nikon F250,
being able to keep on shooting in tight/harsh conditions was definitely a plus.
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 02:25:52 AM »
Space is mostly dark, eh..
Don't want to be using Canons that fill all that dark up with faint reddish stripes and such, gets confusing.  :P

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 02:33:21 AM »
NASA is an old organization that likes to stick to "tradition" or however you want to call it.

Back in the day, Nikon was the top company (film era). So back then, they used Nikon. Sticking to tradition, they still continue to use Nikon.

And don't forget that the D3s did have better low light capabilities than the 1DIV..

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 03:31:27 AM »
I suspect there is one (of two) people in-charge or buying photographic gear for the organization.

I feel it's fair to say that that (those) people decided to choose Nikon.

To say NASA choose Nikon may be incorrect.

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 04:55:33 AM »
I guess they asked several companies, compared prices and then stuck with Nikon cuz it was cheapest.
Anyway who cares what brand some people in space are using? Does it even matter as long as they get usable photos? Probably the guy who shoots the photos is just a Nikon user anyway thats why he got that camera on board.
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 09:05:51 AM »
NASA doesn't send people into space any more. This is irrelevant

They still send people to the International Space Station – they only need to hitch a ride with the russians. But I doubt that this influenced their choice of camera brand…  ;)
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2013, 05:58:22 PM »
For example, here are two factors that go into selecting equipment for space - 1) resistance to radiation (gamma rays, alpha particles, heavy ions in solar wind, tolerance to accumlate dose, etc.)

Some cameras don't survive the radiation.  According to NASA:

"The cameras that come back are evaluated for damage. Depending on the condition the camera may fly again. The space environment (both inside the vehicle and on spacewalks) is tough on the electronic cameras. The radiation damages pixels on the sensor. Sometimes the damage is so great that the camera does not fly again."

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2013, 06:30:16 PM »
It's been many years, but....when Uncle Sam switched the equipment I used to work on from 70mm film to 35mm, modified Nikon bodies were used.  They proved to be more reliable when subjected to adverse conditions, primarily shock and vibration.  Some of the data to support that undoubtedly came from NASA, but I'm sure tax dollars were spent to confirm it.  Then again, we also continued to use Betamax long after it was dead in the civilian market.

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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2013, 08:01:39 PM »
Hi,
    I think they do use Canon EOS, but just not in space.

http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2011/07/how-does-nasa-get-nikon-d2xs-ready-to-go-to-space

    Anyway, this photo ( http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/565184main_jsc2011e040349_hires.jpg ) you mention is taken with a EOS 5D II (So they may be use Nikon to take photo of space and Canon to took photo on Earth?? ha ha ha :-P ). If you look at NASA image archive ( http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts135/multimedia/preflight/Image_Gallery_Collection_archive_38.html ), you'll see quite a lot of them taken with Canon EOS (5D II, 7D & ID4).

    Have a nice day.
   
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Re: EOS not good for NASA?
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2013, 10:01:56 PM »
Berretta won the contract with the goverment, Sig SAUER AND OTHERS lost.  the us military now uses the M9 made by Beretta.  Does that mean the M9 is better than the SIG P266 (that lost the contract)?


NOBODY (who knows guns) would agree with this!












well... all i can say here is it is all about political things during contract bid...

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