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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 03:09:38 AM »
Ken Rockwell always exaggerates one way or the other.
His advice and reviews are unreliable and he often contradicts himself.

He knows near nothing about Canon lenses,.....and often reviews lenses based on reading specs alone.
Read his review of 85 1.2,...one of the best lenses ever made by anyone. It is funny in its ignorance.
The review of 100 2.8 is Macro is just as clueless.
He just recently reviewed the 35 1.4,...... which is and has been and should have been a must,.... for any wanna be reviewer of photographic equipment.
For Canon reviews I trust The Digital Picture with no problem, any day, ahead of Rockwell.

For example to say repeatedly that the best thing is to buy a camera when they are first announced,.... is nothing else but stupid advice.
Whenever I did that, I had nothing but problems with the camera,.....and then the price drops in a few months by 30% and that makes you fell like a loser.
He keeps crying that he does not get paid by camera manufacturers but it makes you wonder when he gives advice like that,.... that plays into selling tactics.
 I never met a crooked person that ever claimed they were crooked,.....just the opposite,....they were always screaming loud and clear they were innocent and honest. Not saying this is necessarily the case with him but it would not be surprising in an age where everyone gets their own,.... that Rockwell's integrity is not what he advertises.
For a guy begging for donations,...He seems to have a Mercedes and a Porsche Cayenne ,....and recently he just bought (according to him),... D800e, D600, Canon 5DMArk III, Canon 6D, Canon 35 1.4...Why would anyone want to own all these at the same time?!
His claim that he always goes the cheapest rout is hilarious.

Lastly,... his abundant pictures of his family are awful, weak pictures, that display no creativity whatsoever,...plain and filled with expected angles of view, where everything looks flat and uninteresting.

He must be a guru for people that need a guru,.... because they cannot think for themselves,.... and need someone to tell them this and that,.... and don't mind being abused or like to be called idiots.
No wonder people with rebels and g15s love him.

His website has some interesting advice but it is not ,by any means,.....the ultimate authority ,.... when I want objectivity and unbiased advice.
Well, well, well look who is exaggerating here!
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 03:09:38 AM »

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 03:11:13 AM »
Rockwell Sociopath?! No!
Just a guy trying to make an almost honest buck preying on the weak and the confused.
why do people hate Ken Rockwell so much.
Who cares?
 His advice isn't the best, but he is fairly consistent overall. I like having one place, with one person who reviews everything from the same perspective. When i'm bored, or need some general info about a different lens or a quick place to find out some specs and a general review, it's a good resource to have. His downloadable PDF guide to the Nikon D700(and AF) is awesome. I have it on my Kindle and read the whole thing. I've never bought or sold anything based on his reviews and have never used one of his links to buy anything. I don't see how he is preying on anybody. I honestly don't really like him, but I have zero reason to be angry or passionate about anything he's done.
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2013, 03:16:39 AM »
I enjoy reading his no frills reviews. He's very clear on what he likes and what he thinks is important. Good stuff. This is an interesting review I think.

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Cut the guy some slack. He's just trying to make a living like everyone else. At least he's not some wall street crook making billions while sending the nation into recession with mortgage fraud. Sure, he's opinionated (like most of us) and whether he's wrong or not, he occasionally makes some interesting points and causes one to think. If you really dislike his website, you don't have to read it ;)
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 03:20:05 AM »
I enjoy reading his no frills reviews. He's very clear on what he likes and what he thinks is important. Good stuff. This is an interesting review I think.

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Cut the guy some slack. He's just trying to make a living like everyone else. At least he's not some wall street crook making billions while sending the nation into recession with mortgage fraud. Sure, he's opinionated (like most of us) and whether he's wrong or not, he occasionally makes some interesting points and causes one to think. If you really dislike his website, you don't have to read it ;)
and I like the fact that he calls my camera the best DSLR int he world, it makes me feel good and happy and like I'm smart to buy it  ;) Sooner or later I might even start to take pictures with it  ::)

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 03:23:15 AM »
LOL ;D
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2013, 03:27:24 AM »
No not really anymore,...I did for a while,....People at Calumet always used his name as reference when talking about equipment,....obviously I was curious to see who he was and what he had to say.
 Not gonna lie,... I read most of his stuff,....some of it was good and I liked it,.... but for a person extra full of himself,.... he makes mistakes in consistency and takes lots of bad pictures.
I try to look elsewhere for inspiration now days.

As soon as I upgraded from my Rebel I had no more need for biased reviews of equipment I could not afford.
I have Canon 5D MArk III,Canon 7D,.... 85 f1.2,35 f1.4,135 f2.0, 40 f2.8, 24-105 f4. 580 ex ii
I don't need anyone to tell me they are great.

Have not read the 6D review.
Canon 6d has a single SD memory card slot which is ridiculous and proves lack of respect from Canon.
When you try to protect your market by intentionally limiting your product when the cost for a more complete offering it would have been minimal,....buddy,...I am not interested. You have just successfully limited yourself. No need to worry about my money changing pockets.
Old 7D has compact flash.

Rockwell Sociopath?! No!
Just a guy trying to make an almost honest buck preying on the weak and the confused.
I'm neither weak nor confused and I learn from his site and from other places like this. I read what he says, but it (like what everybody else says) needs a little bit of post processing to make sense. Everybody has an agenda, his is much clearer than many other's so in that way he's easier to interpret.

Oh, about the 6D and the single memory card. That only goes to show that Canon's product positioning worked. You had some demands and chose the 5D3 over the 6D. Just like Ken says, he also prefers the 5D3 over the 6D thanks to the extra little features.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2013, 03:50:58 AM »
Whether you like him or not, you're putting his name out there. And by doing so, sparking curiosity as to why he may be the marketing clown or source of basic information and product reviewer that he is. I think it's good to have him out on the internet, because people who are just starting out need that info. Actual professionals act like they don't need him. In reality, we do, like these forums, an alternative source of information to the better information that you can easily get from simply buying the camera gear that suits all your needs and going out to shoot with it. Because of that, no one really needs to know when a new product is coming out. We're here because of curiosity. If it's out, it's out. If you need it, you get it now. We all know how it works; Something new gets released, some get buyer's remorse, but in the end we're still all relieved because there's always a price premium and stage of real world testing to new products and most of us buy it long after release anyway. Most people who already have good gear seem to only post here to justify their purchases because it's either all they have and/or used or couldn't use the alternative products correctly or just absolutely could not fit their needs. Some are here to see if Canon is doing well, some are trolls, some are just plain bored. As for people like Ken Rockwell, he helps to feed the basics to the masses to regulate the flow of information to separate the pros from the amateurs and enthusiasts. What I do see as shameful, (And of course, I'm aware that I say this in hypocrisy) that we waste time talking about Ken being a clown and fail to show respect for someone who is doing something pretty much none of us have done and by whining about his opinions you're just making him more famous. We all know he's a horrible photographer, but compared to who? He just needs to prove his point with his photographs, not submit them for awards or sell them. He probably wouldn't be focused on his job as a reviewer of many products if he was making good money with his photographs, I'm sure all of his energy would be in photography and we'd rarely see anything posted by him. That's just how it works, it's a compromise just like everything else. I see the same with the DXO worshipping gearheads, people pledge their lives to scientific tests but in reality they don't have a creative bone in their body. Ken just got even more famous because of this thread =P It's like they say, haters are gonna hate =P Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 04:13:18 AM »
Chosenbydestiny..."I think it's good to have him out on the internet, because people who are just starting out need that info."

When I first started out in digital photography several years ago and was trying to learn, I enjoyed reading Ken's site among others and learned some basics. Now I've moved on and spend time on this site 8)
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 04:16:34 AM »
Nobody is hating no one,.....but do not tell me Elvis Costello is Elvis Presley.
That's all.

And,.... it takes the same amount of clicks to make a bad picture as it takes to make a good one.
And,.... a click lasts about the same.
And,he is bad compared to,....anybody that is not as bad as him,.....and also compared to anyone who sees the world as not being a boring place filled with boring people that believe in the uniqueness of mediocrity.
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 04:22:49 AM »
Wow Ken has changed his tune....

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2013, 04:47:25 AM »
Nobody is hating no one,.....
Your lengthy rant about Ken Rockwell was not love either.
Nobody is hating no one,.....but do not tell me Elvis Costello is Elvis Presley.
That's all.

And,.... it takes the same amount of clicks to make a bad picture as it takes to make a good one.
And,.... a click lasts about the same.
And,he is bad compared to,....anybody that is not as bad as him,.....and also compared to anyone who sees the world as not being a boring place filled with boring people that believe in uniqueness of mediocrity.
No one said he was Elvis Presley ... it was all your assumption
And,.... it takes the same amount of clicks to make a bad picture as it takes to make a good one.
That's correct! ... in the same fashion, 6D can take some amazing picture in the right hands ... great photographers made outstanding photos with cameras that were made 100 years ago i.e. much before you and I were born. I am sure 6D (in the right hands) can make just as a good picture than any of those greats. Which goes to tell you that the problem is not in 6D but in the hands holding it.
And,he is bad
It is ok not to like someones review about a product or call a photo bad ... but calling a person bad is not done, coz Ken Rockwell is not a bad guy ... like someone said he is just making his living without hurting anyone.
.....and also compared to anyone who sees the world as not being a boring place filled with boring people that believe in uniqueness of mediocrity.
HUH ???
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2013, 05:10:24 AM »

No wonder people with rebels and g15s love him.


What does that even mean?  Plenty of fools with the semi-pro cameras like the 5D3. 
More cash and even a better camera doesn't make you a better photographer, or even less gullible or easily influenced.

Lots of folk doing very accomplished work on the cheaper cameras.

I don't rate Ken's reviews at all, and the points you make are mostly fair, but to sleight folk because they aren't part of the 5D3 club reveals it's own, worse kind of ignorance.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2013, 05:15:13 AM »


So basically if don't love a person you have to hate them?!
Funny.
You need a grey card.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2013, 05:25:21 AM »
Nobody is hating no one,.....
Your lengthy rant about Ken Rockwell was not love either.

So basically if don't love a person you have to hate them?!
Funny.
You need a grey card.
So you don't love him? ;D ... surprising, the length of your post dedicated to Ken Rockwell would make us think otherwise. ;D
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 05:27:28 AM »

No wonder people with rebels and g15s love him.


What does that even mean?  Plenty of fools with the semi-pro cameras like the 5D3. 
More cash and even a better camera doesn't make you a better photographer, or even less gullible or easily influenced.

Lots of folk doing very accomplished work on the cheaper cameras.

I don't rate Ken's reviews at all, and the points you make are mostly fair, but to sleight folk because they aren't part of the 5D3 club reveals it's own, worse kind of ignorance.
Well said as usual from you Paul.

We have lots of cameras in the house, my daughters are playing around both shooting video and pictures and then my own futile attempts to take good pictures of course. Some people on this forum gets kind of snobbish sometimes. My best picture ever I shot with my old 60D, without looking, I aimed it at a police officer shaking down a guy for money. Technically not a very good picture, but I was there in the moment and saw it go down as I walked past. I shot it backwards under my own armpit and the strap is disturbing the image That is also photography, not only perfect colourful landscapes with a lot of dynamic range.

Rockwell is what he is, I think he does a great job. AND I do like his writing.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
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