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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 05:44:59 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.
Beauty exists even if the beholder is blind.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2013, 05:50:44 AM »


HOOBy ShOOter,...

After you described your best picture,.....I rest my case.
There's nothing more to say.
I am in awe,.... and speechless.
So that's how great pictures are made,...?!
If you are not indeed Ken Rockwell,.....you can start being him,..... cause we need more people like you two.
Good luck with your Art.
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2013, 06:01:21 AM »
Nothing. He's a carnival clown.

+1

visiting his website is a waste of time. it is full of wrong and inconsistent infos.

you don´t need fast aperture lenses.... we have IS and good HIGH ISO.
you don´t need a tripod... we have IS and good HIGH ISO.
you don´t need more then 8-10 MP... nobody is printing bigger then A4 or is cropping images.
35mm film is still better then anything digital.
fast framerates are useless, except when you are shoothing motorsport.

of course when you read his whole website you will find that in other articles he writes EXACTLY the opposit.

he speaks a lot about color but 85% of his images look like crap... colorwise.
i guess he has some issues with his eyes.

he writes 3 pages why cameras don´t matter.
then he writes 5 pages why he loves camera A but won´t use camera B.
honest... what a /%&%&.
 
attacking pearl habour (a military base) was the evilest thing humans could do.
dropping the bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki (killing civilians) was a fine thing to do.


and look at his gallery (if you dare) he processes all his images with SATURATION +100.
you can´t take such a guy serious.

This is the best anybody can say about this subject.
I was laughing for 5 minutes.
It is sublime.
The quintessence of Rockwell.
Thank you.
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2013, 06:02:50 AM »
Oh well, Ken Rockwell. Actually I read most of his stuff; but like with every other review site, I take it with caution.
I give him points for pointing out the important stuff, like why he takes a Nikon D40 with him when he goes out with his family, and not a D800 or a 5D3, and he also makes clear that a better camera won't make you a better photographer.
There is also a lot of stuff, where I do not take him serious. For example what he thinks the best camera is at the moment (the 5D3), he is switching his views, and is inconsistent sometime, but this is also part of his plan; he needs to provoke people, this is why people are reading him.

For realy serious test I read "The Digital Picture", this is the best source for Canon reviews in my opinion, but I also read KenRockwell, to get another point of view.

As for his 6D review, I like it. He says many things that I feel the same about. IQ is great, handling is nice. Dual card slot is only for those who need it (I don't need it); the AF system is also okay, except you mainly shoot action (which I'm doing not). So the 6D would be a nice camera for me, if the price comes down 400$

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2013, 06:13:54 AM »


"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.


If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.

Well, I depends on what you are doing. Sure, there are some limitations for cameras, the smaller/cheaper the camera, the bigger the limitations. But once you are up in DSLR territory, the differences are getting quite small. If you are not able to nail the composition with a EOS1000D, then you also won't be able to do it with a 1DX, it is as simple as that. If you have the skills, than the picture taken with the 1DX will definitly look better than the one with the 1000D, but the marging will not be that big, especially compared to the difference between the picture taken from a skilled photographer, to the one from an unskilled.

And well, I think Danica Patrik in a Cavalier would drive circles around you on a difficult track, no matter in what car you are sitting.

The eqiupment should always fit the skills of a photographer, and the only way of a photographer to improve his skills is taking pictures, and looking at pictures, and definitly not with buying more expensive gear.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2013, 06:30:05 AM »
"Well said as usual from you Paul.

We have lots of cameras in the house, my daughters are playing around both shooting video and pictures and then my own futile attempts to take good pictures of course. Some people on this forum gets kind of snobbish sometimes. My best picture ever I shot with my old 60D, without looking, I aimed it at a police officer shaking down a guy for money. Technically not a very good picture, but I was there in the moment and saw it go down as I walked past. I shot it backwards under my own armpit and the strap is disturbing the image That is also photography, not only perfect colourful landscapes with a lot of dynamic range.

Rockwell is what he is, I think he does a great job. AND I do like his writing."

HOOBy ShOOter,...

After you described your best picture,.....I rest my case.
There's nothing more to say.
I am in awe,.... and speechless.
So that's how great pictures are made,...?!
If you are not indeed Ken Rockwell,.....you can start being him,..... cause we need more people like you two.
Good luck with your Art.
What did I do to you?

It seems you just don't get it.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2013, 06:36:33 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.
OK, in that case, show us some of your photos and let everyone decide who is "very bright" or a "moron".
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2013, 06:36:33 AM »

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2013, 06:43:36 AM »
Kenrockwell hails Canon 6d compared to Nikon d600 and Canon 5d mark III. What do you guys have to say about this?

I bought a 6D two weeks ago. I am satisfied with the picture quality but hate the bad autofocus, removal of joystick and the video quality. But the D600 was impossible to buy since it had the oil speck problem.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2013, 07:00:11 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.
OK, in that case, show us some of your photos and let everyone decide who is "very bright" or a "moron".

Yes Magnardo, you have built up all these expectations now7

Especially with the comment:
'After you described your best picture,.....I rest my case.'

We really really want to see some of your great art.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2013, 07:32:11 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.

Okay, there is so much comedy gold and contradiction here it's unreal.

"1000$ on a good camera."

I'm not knocking this in itself, because 1000$ (or even $1000) would buy you a good camera.  It would buy you a rebel.  It would buy you a 60D.  At a push it might even buy you a 7D.  Are these the good cameras you mean?

I have a 7D and I can vouch that it is a good camera.  I'm also acutely aware that the sensor and processor is the same as in my T3i.  And that lens for lens, setting for setting, sports and and nature aside, I'll get pretty much interchangable results.  The 7D wins out for sports and nature, and viewfinder quality and handling. 
90% of the time I am entirely happy to use the t3i.

I am with you up to a point on the lenses, but don't confuse cost with quality.  One of my favourite best performing lenses is the relatively humble 100mm f2.0 USM.   My Sigma 70mm is also pretty darned exceptional.  I was underwhelmed with the 17-40 when I owned it, but that said I would use it in pretty rough conditions like the speedway track in the rain, without fear of failure.  I prefered my old 200mm f2.8L to my current zoom, but I need the flexibility for video, I could have spent $1000's more on the f2.0, or $1000 more on the IS mk2 zoom, but I'm smart enough to know about the law of diminishing returns, and buy the kit I need, rather than buy the kit I need to make up for any lack of self-esteem or ability.  Besides that $1000 would get my SQN a full service, or get me an extra m416, or let me get a Sachtler rather than Vinten.
It's all about spending money where it's important.

I don't work in real estate, I work in video production for Europes largest publisher.  I get to wear sneakers and jeans to my work because I'm in the creative dept.  I don't have an ego at all, quite the opposite I'm actually very modest, shy almost.  Folk judge me on my work, some of it made on the humble T3i, some of it made on a PMW-350, whichever suits the task in hand.   I don't need to wear a suit or a big watch for folk to take me seriously (although I do like my big watches, which shall I wear today, my Tag or my Omega, ach the Omega needs winding and setting, I'll just wear the Tag) and it's the same with the camera gear.  I have storyboards pulled apart, I have location managers climbing the walls when I start asking about mains phasing, when I filmed with Rod Stewart recently he was very particular about the angle of my camera and the position and power of the light.  But I can honestly say I've never had anybody challenge my choice of camera. 

And Annie Leibovitz might not turn up with an iphone, but she'd probably be professional enough not to scoff at $1000 DSLR users from behind her Hasselblad DMF.    And she would probably be quite interested in somebody with a G15, as a G10 was for a long time her choice of pocket camera.

But that's the bar your setting for comparison to your standards is it? Annie Leibovitz? Thats the level you're at I take it?

You have the touch of the littljohn or the clarkson about you, except they can put their incendary troll-like opinions into reasonable english.

And if your argument is really that you can't get a good image out of a Rebel, or that using a Rebel makes you stupid then I'm afraid you really are talking out of your backside.

You can usually tell stupid folk by their opinions, and you're doing a grand job.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2013, 07:37:57 AM »
but I'm smart enough to know about the law of diminishing returns, and buy the kit I need, rather than buy the kit I need to make up for any lack of self-esteem or ability.  Besides that $1000 would get my SQN a full service, or get me an extra m416, or let me get a Sachtler rather than Vinten.
It's all about spending money where it's important.

Great post :-) thanks your're sharing your experiences! Btw I'd really miss KR reviews just for the threads they generate :->

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2013, 07:47:25 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.

Okay, there is so much comedy gold and contradiction here it's unreal.

"1000$ on a good camera."

I'm not knocking this in itself, because 1000$ (or even $1000) would buy you a good camera.  It would buy you a rebel.  It would buy you a 60D.  At a push it might even buy you a 7D.  Are these the good cameras you mean?

I have a 7D and I can vouch that it is a good camera.  I'm also acutely aware that the sensor and processor is the same as in my T3i.  And that lens for lens, setting for setting, sports and and nature aside, I'll get pretty much interchangable results.  The 7D wins out for sports and nature, and viewfinder quality and handling. 
90% of the time I am entirely happy to use the t3i.

I am with you up to a point on the lenses, but don't confuse cost with quality.  One of my favourite best performing lenses is the relatively humble 100mm f2.0 USM.   My Sigma 70mm is also pretty darned exceptional.  I was underwhelmed with the 17-40 when I owned it, but that said I would use it in pretty rough conditions like the speedway track in the rain, without fear of failure.  I prefered my old 200mm f2.8L to my current zoom, but I need the flexibility for video, I could have spent $1000's more on the f2.0, or $1000 more on the IS mk2 zoom, but I'm smart enough to know about the law of diminishing returns, and buy the kit I need, rather than buy the kit I need to make up for any lack of self-esteem or ability.  Besides that $1000 would get my SQN a full service, or get me an extra m416, or let me get a Sachtler rather than Vinten.
It's all about spending money where it's important.

I don't work in real estate, I work in video production for Europes largest publisher.  I get to wear sneakers and jeans to my work because I'm in the creative dept.  I don't have an ego at all, quite the opposite I'm actually very modest, shy almost.  Folk judge me on my work, some of it made on the humble T3i, some of it made on a PMW-350, whichever suits the task in hand.   I don't need to wear a suit or a big watch for folk to take me seriously (although I do like my big watches, which shall I wear today, my Tag or my Omega, ach the Omega needs winding and setting, I'll just wear the Tag) and it's the same with the camera gear.  I have storyboards pulled apart, I have location managers climbing the walls when I start asking about mains phasing, when I filmed with Rod Stewart recently he was very particular about the angle of my camera and the position and power of the light.  But I can honestly say I've never had anybody challenge my choice of camera. 

And Annie Leibovitz might not turn up with an iphone, but she'd probably be professional enough not to scoff at $1000 DSLR users from behind her Hasselblad DMF.    And she would probably be quite interested in somebody with a G15, as a G10 was for a long time her choice of pocket camera.

But that's the bar your setting for comparison to your standards is it? Annie Leibovitz? Thats the level you're at I take it?

You have the touch of the littljohn or the clarkson about you, except they can put their incendary troll-like opinions into reasonable english.

And if your argument is really that you can't get a good image out of a Rebel, or that using a Rebel makes you stupid then I'm afraid you really are talking out of your backside.

You can usually tell stupid folk by their opinions, and you're doing a grand job.
Good one.
Let's wait and see if Magnardo uploads any of his magnificent photos for us to see, if he truly is "very bright" or just talking from "backside" ;D
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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2013, 08:06:49 AM »
If you go and do accomplished work with a rebel and g15,.....is the same with showing at work as a realtor in cheap suit and tennis shoes and pretending you are successful.
Danika Patrick in Cavalier,....Go race,....The car does not matter,...it's the driver.

"Cameras do not matter"is stupid,.....Lenses do not matter,.... is even worse.

Yes,.... a moron with a good camera can be outdone by a pro with an I phone but I do not see any of these IPhone praising super pros like Annie Leibovitz showing up on a job with an I phone because,..... CAMERA MATTERS.

If you do not have 1000$ to spend on a good camera but you have 500$ to spend on a G15,.....you are indeed accomplished in,... not being very bright.

Okay, there is so much comedy gold and contradiction here it's unreal.

"1000$ on a good camera."

I'm not knocking this in itself, because 1000$ (or even $1000) would buy you a good camera.  It would buy you a rebel.  It would buy you a 60D.  At a push it might even buy you a 7D.  Are these the good cameras you mean?

I have a 7D and I can vouch that it is a good camera.  I'm also acutely aware that the sensor and processor is the same as in my T3i.  And that lens for lens, setting for setting, sports and and nature aside, I'll get pretty much interchangable results.  The 7D wins out for sports and nature, and viewfinder quality and handling. 
90% of the time I am entirely happy to use the t3i.

I am with you up to a point on the lenses, but don't confuse cost with quality.  One of my favourite best performing lenses is the relatively humble 100mm f2.0 USM.   My Sigma 70mm is also pretty darned exceptional.  I was underwhelmed with the 17-40 when I owned it, but that said I would use it in pretty rough conditions like the speedway track in the rain, without fear of failure.  I prefered my old 200mm f2.8L to my current zoom, but I need the flexibility for video, I could have spent $1000's more on the f2.0, or $1000 more on the IS mk2 zoom, but I'm smart enough to know about the law of diminishing returns, and buy the kit I need, rather than buy the kit I need to make up for any lack of self-esteem or ability.  Besides that $1000 would get my SQN a full service, or get me an extra m416, or let me get a Sachtler rather than Vinten.
It's all about spending money where it's important.

I don't work in real estate, I work in video production for Europes largest publisher.  I get to wear sneakers and jeans to my work because I'm in the creative dept.  I don't have an ego at all, quite the opposite I'm actually very modest, shy almost.  Folk judge me on my work, some of it made on the humble T3i, some of it made on a PMW-350, whichever suits the task in hand.   I don't need to wear a suit or a big watch for folk to take me seriously (although I do like my big watches, which shall I wear today, my Tag or my Omega, ach the Omega needs winding and setting, I'll just wear the Tag) and it's the same with the camera gear.  I have storyboards pulled apart, I have location managers climbing the walls when I start asking about mains phasing, when I filmed with Rod Stewart recently he was very particular about the angle of my camera and the position and power of the light.  But I can honestly say I've never had anybody challenge my choice of camera. 

And Annie Leibovitz might not turn up with an iphone, but she'd probably be professional enough not to scoff at $1000 DSLR users from behind her Hasselblad DMF.    And she would probably be quite interested in somebody with a G15, as a G10 was for a long time her choice of pocket camera.

But that's the bar your setting for comparison to your standards is it? Annie Leibovitz? Thats the level you're at I take it?

You have the touch of the littljohn or the clarkson about you, except they can put their incendary troll-like opinions into reasonable english.

And if your argument is really that you can't get a good image out of a Rebel, or that using a Rebel makes you stupid then I'm afraid you really are talking out of your backside.

You can usually tell stupid folk by their opinions, and you're doing a grand job.
Paul, I only wish I was as eloquent as you, it's that non native english thing in my way maybe. You say what people think. Thanks. I'm astounded to read about your work and I appreciate your other contributions you make here.

What makes you a true hero though is that you made Rod Stewart look good. That takes not only skill but genious.

Friday night in my part of the world. Time to log off. Cheers.

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Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2013, 09:17:14 AM »
Its funny to read the emotions that Ken Rockwell can evoke!  He's probably reading this and thinking ... 'Wow, I just pulled a 15 share in the canonrumors Nielsen's'.  Nicely Done Ken!

I know I always get caught up in the 'Is it opinion, or Is it Science' internal debate.  Sometimes I'm in mood for OpEd's and sometimes I'm in the mood for Thomas Dolby (SCIENCE!).  But whichever the case ... they both have a place in my compulsatory spending on photography equipment algorithem.  That's probably how I ended up with my first bit of L glass:  a Quantaray 35-80 with a newspaper rubberband on the barrel ;) Talk about fast glass!

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« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2013, 12:28:26 PM »
You all are too rough on KR!  ;)

I've been reading his stuff for years and always find it entertaining and often informative.  He has many non-mainstream ideas about photography that I don't ascribe to (shoot only jpeg's, megapixels don't matter, it's all about the color, etc.), but makes some valid points as well.  A lot of what he writes is tongue-in-cheek, so you can't always take what he says at face value.

His product reviews are non-technical and sometimes contradictory, but he makes some very good observations as well.  Sometimes pointing out flaws or advantages of a product that I don't see mentioned elsewhere.  For serious product reviews I always look at TDP first, but also look at KR and a few others sites just to see what they say.

Nobody is forced to read his stuff.  I you don't like it, don't read it. 
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