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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 07:24:06 AM »
Who knows if they're even going to make a filter for the 6D though because they haven't produced one for any bodies other than 7D and 5D2.

I got an email from Mosaic Engineering. They working on the filter on the 6D.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 09:02:54 AM »
Did the 6d get the auto focus functionality with STM lenses like the T4i ?

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 09:32:31 AM »
I cannot speak from the videographer end (I do shoot DSLR video, but it is not my focus), but after having shot my first business event (primarily stills) with my new 6D along with my 5DII last night, I would gladly exchange my 5DMKII for a second 6D today.

1)  Coming out of standby.  When I shoot events, I keep the camera(s) on and let them sleep.  The 6D is (in my unscientific testing) somewhere between 2-3 times faster in coming out of sleep mode.  The 5DII was noticeably slower.  This is a big deal when a crucial shot in unfolding and you are waiting for your camera to come alive.

2)  Snappier autofocus and less shutter lag.  I actually had the snappier lens on the 5DII (135L) vs. the Tamron 24-70 VC on the 6D), but while the 135L focuses faster, I still felt my overall focus to capture time was better with the 6D.  I had never really known the shutter lag of the 5DII until I shot my 6D.  It seems to snap while you are still thinking about snapping.

3)  ISO performance.  I was shooting in 2500-3200 range most of the evening.  The noise level and overall IQ is noticeably superior in the 6D, not to mention the color is superior.

For the kind of work I do (events, weddings, portraiture, then fine art/landscapes), the 6D promises to be a great performer.  I am really excited about it.
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 10:48:07 AM »
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 11:26:51 AM »
@ Dustin, have you got enough info to give an opinion of the 6D data at low ISO ( specifically 100 ) compared with the 5D ? Colleagues who have the 5D mk3 have referred to the more film- like qualities of this model compared with the Mk 2 and 1Ds Mk 3. I wondered if you are seeing anything like that yourself with the 6D.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 05:29:05 PM »
@ Dustin, have you got enough info to give an opinion of the 6D data at low ISO ( specifically 100 ) compared with the 5D ? Colleagues who have the 5D mk3 have referred to the more film- like qualities of this model compared with the Mk 2 and 1Ds Mk 3. I wondered if you are seeing anything like that yourself with the 6D.

I've only been using it for a few days, but coming from a 5DII I have found images noticeably better to my eye.  Smoother color, tighter detail.  I am very impressed with the image quality for stills.

I haven't personally used the MKIII, so I cannot comment on how it compares there, but I have read that the noise levels are superior even to the MKIII.  As far as image quality goes, the 6D is an exceptional camera and produces noticeably superior images to the 5DMKII.
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 05:46:34 PM »
Here's a very simple, around the house image that I can tell a difference with (this is shot with a 6D/Tamron 24-70mm VC before AFMA, which I did on my whole kit today).

The second image is about a 100% crop that shows both fine detail and color graduation on skin tones.  This is ISO 800.  I primarily shot a business event yesterday evening at ISO 2500 and saw no need for noise reduction.  Images look flawless.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 05:46:34 PM »

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2013, 05:51:36 PM »
6D. always go with newer technology.

Not always.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2013, 07:42:20 PM »
Power went out during my son's birthday tonight and so I had to crank the ISO to 5000 and shoot with ambient light.  This shot is straight out of camera, ISO 5000, 1/50th second shutter speed at 70mm (Tamron 24-70mm VC):

(Even at 100% the grain looks like about ISO 800 a generation ago)

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 07:49:09 PM »
Power went out during my son's birthday tonight and so I had to crank the ISO to 5000 and shoot with ambient light.  This shot is straight out of camera, ISO 5000, 1/50th second shutter speed at 70mm (Tamron 24-70mm VC):

(Even at 100% the grain looks like about ISO 800 a generation ago)

Nice pic. Im still trying to save for 6d. Your 24-70 seems a very nice lens.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2013, 08:31:22 AM »
Power went out during my son's birthday tonight and so I had to crank the ISO to 5000 and shoot with ambient light.  This shot is straight out of camera, ISO 5000, 1/50th second shutter speed at 70mm (Tamron 24-70mm VC):

(Even at 100% the grain looks like about ISO 800 a generation ago)

Nice pic. Im still trying to save for 6d. Your 24-70 seems a very nice lens.

6D is a great camera.  It is popular with some to bash it without trying it, but other than a couple minor quirks I find it to be a great camera - it is my favorite that I have used so far.  By all accounts it is capable of as good of image quality as just about any Canon ever.

I have been really happy with the Tamron.  I have no problem recommending it.  I would recommend buying it from a reputable retailer that will let you exchange copies if necessary.  There seems to be some sample variation, particularly with early copies.  I felt my first copy was not entirely on spec, so I exchanged it for a second that I have exceptionally pleased with.
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2013, 01:15:10 PM »
Who knows if they're even going to make a filter for the 6D though because they haven't produced one for any bodies other than 7D and 5D2.

Here 'tis:
http://store.mosaicengineering.com/VAF-6D-Moire-Aliasing-Filter_p_15.html

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2013, 01:26:57 PM »
@ Dustin, pic quality looks impressive. Keep the samples and info on the 6D coming. I'd like to see some 100 ISO shots in your usual style.

Also let us know how you feel about the build of the 6D as time goes on. I've had a look at one in my local prof store and if seems good, but, just like when you look at a car, it's not untill you own it that you find it's faults  :D

Personally I'd like Canon to introduce a 6Dv version - no wi fi and gps but a mag alloy top plate  :)

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2013, 01:31:23 PM »
Power went out during my son's birthday tonight and so I had to crank the ISO to 5000 and shoot with ambient light.  This shot is straight out of camera, ISO 5000, 1/50th second shutter speed at 70mm (Tamron 24-70mm VC):

(Even at 100% the grain looks like about ISO 800 a generation ago)

Nice pic. Im still trying to save for 6d. Your 24-70 seems a very nice lens.

6D is a great camera.  It is popular with some to bash it without trying it, but other than a couple minor quirks I find it to be a great camera - it is my favorite that I have used so far.  By all accounts it is capable of as good of image quality as just about any Canon ever.

I have been really happy with the Tamron.  I have no problem recommending it.  I would recommend buying it from a reputable retailer that will let you exchange copies if necessary.  There seems to be some sample variation, particularly with early copies.  I felt my first copy was not entirely on spec, so I exchanged it for a second that I have exceptionally pleased with.

Has anyone kept track of the serial number (ranges) of the returned / NG Tamron 24-70 VC ??
I'm wondering if we can get some sort of guideline of the range yo avoid.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2013, 03:12:44 PM »
Personally I'd like Canon to introduce a 6Dv version - no wi fi and gps but a mag alloy top plate  :)

For me a 6Drts-af please, with built-in rt flash master, swivel screen and 11 pt true crosspoint af @f2.8 - *then* I'm more likely to consider the €2000 price is justified...

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