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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2013, 04:25:24 PM »
@ Dustin, pic quality looks impressive. Keep the samples and info on the 6D coming. I'd like to see some 100 ISO shots in your usual style.

Also let us know how you feel about the build of the 6D as time goes on. I've had a look at one in my local prof store and if seems good, but, just like when you look at a car, it's not untill you own it that you find it's faults  :D

Personally I'd like Canon to introduce a 6Dv version - no wi fi and gps but a mag alloy top plate  :)

I haven't had time to do a lot of "typical" shooting since I have gotten it.  I've shot a couple of events (which is good, because it is paying work), but my shooting otherwise has been limited to "around the house" kind of stuff.  Here is one that I took today of the family cat, ISO 1000.  I shoot RAW, but did no custom settings.  The only thing I have done here is a +56 in LR4 "Shadows" to pull open the shadows a bit because of shooting into a shadowed area.  The 100% image is incredibly clean.  I'm impressed with its improved ability to retain detail in the shadows without banding or noise.  Lens is the Tamron
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2013, 04:25:24 PM »

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2013, 04:34:42 PM »
That does look incredibly good for 1000 ISO

So much for all the b*** ***t about Canon using outdated sensor technology.

I note your cat is accustomed to the same degree of luxury that my wife provides for hers  ;D

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2013, 04:45:39 PM »
That does look incredibly good for 1000 ISO

So much for all the b*** ***t about Canon using outdated sensor technology.

I note your cat is accustomed to the same degree of luxury that my wife provides for hers  ;D

I uploaded a fairly large image so that it could be examined closely (3000 pixels long end).  If someone were to tell me that this image was ISO 100-200, I would believe them.

But even at high ISO (5000+) where there is some grain, it is so smooth and film like that it is in no displeasing to my eye, and I'm pretty paranoid about clean images.  I actually have a friend in Toronto that also just got a 6D who said this: "I bought the 6D a few weeks ago and very happy with it! One thing I am really loving is the quality of grain(noise) in high iso shots (12800 and over) - really film like!"
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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2013, 05:03:53 PM »
@ Dustin, didn't twig you're uploaded such a big file. I've just downloaded it on my iMac and opened it in Photoshop, and yes, I revise my comments. It's good for any ISO ! The blanket and dark background would be very susceptible to noise as well. That is really quite astonishing, I'm going to send the file to my partner in B-P.

Looks like I'm gonna have to raid the bank account........ :)

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2013, 05:13:06 PM »
So much for all the b*** ***t about Canon using outdated sensor technology.

You're confusing "outdated" with "bad": yes, Canon is behind the competition in sensor design (low iso sharpness, shadow noise, mp & dr) and no, that doesn't mean that Canon sensors cannot be an appropriate tool for most jobs - actually even my 60d is.

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2013, 10:05:17 AM »
Here's a single exposure RAW shot taken yesterday and processed normal workflow - this is all in LR4.  I have definitely found that there is less banding when pulling up shadow detail and the graduation to highlights is also smoother compared to 5DII.

I do use HDR occasionally when shooting tough lighting scenes, but I have found already that there is enough dynamic range with the 6D that HDR shows little overall improvement.  I'm impressed:


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2013, 04:17:39 PM »
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To able to do this all myself with the razor thin depth of field of the 135L is pretty amazing.  I would have had a nightmare trying to execute this concept with my 5DII
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: Should I go with a 6D or a Mkii while they're cheap
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2013, 04:17:39 PM »