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Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« on: January 20, 2013, 06:10:15 AM »
Not only does it work on full frame (as a 15-16mm f/2.8, unless you want a hard vignette in your image), but it is actually pretty sharp!

Check my tests here:
http://www.similaar.com/foto/lenstestsff/lenstestsa.html

My test chart is not huge, so with such a wide angle lens this is a very short focus test. In these conditions, it's not the sharpest lens in the test, but even in the extreme corners it is better, for example, than the Canon 24mm f/2.8, and similar to many other lenses, including my beloved 35mm f/2.8 (which I regard as a very sharp lens even in the corners).

Trouble is, a lens can be very sharp when focusing one foot away, but blurry when you focus at infinity. I'll have to test the Tokina in the field, but based on these results, I'm already quite impressed. If it keeps its sharpness when focused at infinity, this may be the best bang-for-buck 16mm f/2.8 prime you can buy for a full frame camera.

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Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 08:14:33 AM »
I found this out by accident too, already had the 11-16 when I bought my 6D, total fluke that all my lenses worked when I made the FF switch
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 08:21:26 AM »
on a side note: When you tear a banknote apart, make sure one part is doubtlessly bigger than half a note.

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 08:43:16 AM »
From what I've seen in samples, the Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 has better image results and a better price tag. However, I did use the Tokina 11-16 on my full frame cameras a few times and from that alone I can also agree with you that it's surprisingly sharp.
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 10:19:15 AM »
on a side note: When you tear a banknote apart, make sure one part is doubtlessly bigger than half a note.

Just curious: why?

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 11:34:27 AM »
on a side note: When you tear a banknote apart, make sure one part is doubtlessly bigger than half a note.

Just curious: why?

Because if you have more than 1/2 of the bill it is still spendable.

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 11:48:54 AM »
Not really worried about that. I'm in Europe, and those two halves are glued on vinyl then stuck on a door. Plus, at $1, that's the cheapest resolution test chart ever!

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 12:03:48 PM »
As long as your not worried about it... :o  How about posting some more interesting photos taken with your 11-16 on FF?

I mean small bills taped to doors are good, but not awesome.

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 12:26:21 PM »
The camera was borrowed, I'm just pondering the fullframe move and I wanted to see how well my lenses would work with the bigger sensor. But now that the owner knows it works so well (he had disregarded it as "probably too soft in the corners") there should be some pics to show if he finds a situation where such a wide angle lens is needed.

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 12:59:05 PM »
The camera was borrowed, I'm just pondering the fullframe move and I wanted to see how well my lenses would work with the bigger sensor. But now that the owner knows it works so well (he had disregarded it as "probably too soft in the corners") there should be some pics to show if he finds a situation where such a wide angle lens is needed.

When I first got my 5DMKII, I was using the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 lens as a wide angle and found that I could use it from about 18-24mm without vignetting on my FF body.  It was actually very capable lens, but I ended up switching to the 17-40mm f/4L just to get the full focal length of the lens. In particularly I found the color rendering quite excellent and vivid on it. Here are some samples taken with the Tokina + 5D2.


Saint Columbkille's Cathedral - Pembroke, Ontario, Canada by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr


Mirror by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 02:10:29 PM »
Not only does it work on full frame (as a 15-16mm f/2.8, unless you want a hard vignette in your image), but it is actually pretty sharp!

Check my tests here:
http://www.similaar.com/foto/lenstestsff/lenstestsa.html

My test chart is not huge, so with such a wide angle lens this is a very short focus test. In these conditions, it's not the sharpest lens in the test, but even in the extreme corners it is better, for example, than the Canon 24mm f/2.8, and similar to many other lenses, including my beloved 35mm f/2.8 (which I regard as a very sharp lens even in the corners).

Trouble is, a lens can be very sharp when focusing one foot away, but blurry when you focus at infinity. I'll have to test the Tokina in the field, but based on these results, I'm already quite impressed. If it keeps its sharpness when focused at infinity, this may be the best bang-for-buck 16mm f/2.8 prime you can buy for a full frame camera.
Interesting! I used to have this lens till 2010 ... sold it.
Just out of curiosity, is that the old version (DX) or the new version (DX II)? ... the old one (DX) costs under US$600 & the new one (DX II) around $740
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2013, 02:14:55 PM »
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2013, 05:50:38 PM »
Nice tests.
just as an FYI, the Sigma 8-16mm also works as a FF 15-16mm (although granted, a lot slower than the tokina f/5.6 and it doesn't take filters). 15mm on FF is not as wide as 8mm or even 11mm on APS-C, but it's good to know these 3rd-party UWA can be used on FF in a pinch...
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Re: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on full frame: it's actually quite good!
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