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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2013, 05:51:44 AM »
As low as possible...as fast as necessary!

Bingo. You word this much better than me...

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2013, 06:11:07 AM »
As low as possible...as fast as necessary!

Bingo. You word this much better than me...

I understand, I'm already there.
But, I am referring to a limit/situation where you say, I can not push ISO anymore else it would be too noisy.

In low light fast means in the range of 15th - 60th.
In what shutter speed can you say, I can not get low anymore, else there would definitely camera shake.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2013, 06:15:36 AM »
ISO wise

Canon 10D - 100-800 useable - 1600 extreme

7D - 100-3200 usable - 6400 extreme

5Dc - 100-3200 usable.

5D3 - 100-12800 usable - 25600 extreme

Aperture is not limited for me. I use what needs to be used.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2013, 06:19:26 AM »
Can't remember who said it but it went something like: A sharp image with noise will always outsell a blurry image with no noise.  :D

And there's of course the artistic exception, where blur might be the point. Then go for it.
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2013, 07:03:32 AM »
My ceiling is usually 3200 but have gone 6400 on my  5D MKII. Im hoping soon that I'll get the chance to "play" with the 1 DX!!!
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2013, 07:28:26 AM »
Thanks guys, really appreciate it.
It will save me a lot of testing, I can only shoot when weekends,
I'm new shooting RAW, I am still getting used to on my workflow.
These inputs will save me precious time and precious pictures.

Additional quick question: What aperture you normally use? when you dont intend bokeh.

Again, I am used to with my G12, I always shoot at maximum at 2.8.
So when I got the 6D, its 2nd nature to me to shoot < 2.8.

So i want to know your side guys.
My current lens is 28mm F1.8

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2013, 07:35:49 AM »
On my 5DMKIII I have my range set to 100-6400. 12800 is useable but im not overly keen on it.

6400 is more comfortable and cleans up nicely
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2013, 09:00:14 AM »
eninja,

 your comparison of apertures between the g12 and the 6D will be problematic. you are dealing with a lot less depth of field on your 6D.

 for max apertures i will only go to 2.8 or wider if i am dealing with a single subject and it depends greatly on the lens. on the 35L i am comfortable with the IQ down to F2.0...on my 70-200 2.8L i feel better at F4 but will go to F2.8 with the understanding that i will probably be getting soft results on a percentage of shots.

 for group small shots (2 to 3 people) i dont feel comfortable going wider than F5.6 but i will sometimes fudge it at F4 if i am desperate for light. for corporate head shots i try not to go wider than F8. for creative head shots i'll go to an F2 if i can.

 for sports i tried to stay at 5.6 or smaller as i wanted greater depth of field to compensate for the players movement throughout the frame. if i tried to shoot at F2.8 often times the players had moved out of my depth of field in the fraction of a second that it took the camera to focus and release the shutter. this was on the 5D series cameras which of course were less than ideal for action in terms of that focusing system.

 its all highly dependent upon then lens (focal length) that i am using and what the situation calls for. the full frame format is an entirely different animal in terms of Depth of Field and you should not reference your experiences on your G12 as to what apertures will work in certain situations. 
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2013, 09:13:07 AM »
eninja,

 your comparison of apertures between the g12 and the 6D will be problematic. you are dealing with a lot less depth of field on your 6D.

 for max apertures i will only go to 2.8 or wider if i am dealing with a single subject and it depends greatly on the lens. on the 35L i am comfortable with the IQ down to F2.0...on my 70-200 2.8L i feel better at F4 but will go to F2.8 with the understanding that i will probably be getting soft results on a percentage of shots.

 for group small shots (2 to 3 people) i dont feel comfortable going wider than F5.6 but i will sometimes fudge it at F4 if i am desperate for light. for corporate head shots i try not to go wider than F8. for creative head shots i'll go to an F2 if i can.

 for sports i tried to stay at 5.6 or smaller as i wanted greater depth of field to compensate for the players movement throughout the frame. if i tried to shoot at F2.8 often times the players had moved out of my depth of field in the fraction of a second that it took the camera to focus and release the shutter. this was on the 5D series cameras which of course were less than ideal for action in terms of that focusing system.

 its all highly dependent upon then lens (focal length) that i am using and what the situation calls for. the full frame format is an entirely different animal in terms of Depth of Field and you should not reference your experiences on your G12 as to what apertures will work in certain situations.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2013, 09:13:29 AM »
My experience with the 5d iii is that i cannot go above 3200 without losing significant sharpness.  Interestingly I was shooting at a high school basketball game with a guy using a nikon D4 and the pics were tack sharp at iso 8000.  Will the 1dX tolerate this high of ISO?  This is an honest question not a nikon vs canon comment.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2013, 09:19:54 AM »
My experience with the 5d iii is that i cannot go above 3200 without losing significant sharpness.  Interestingly I was shooting at a high school basketball game with a guy using a nikon D4 and the pics were tack sharp at iso 8000.  Will the 1dX tolerate this high of ISO?  This is an honest question not a nikon vs canon comment.

1D-X does better than that. It is unbelievable the shots they are able to pull out of that sensor.
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2013, 09:33:57 AM »
I see no sharpness loss until over 12800 on my 5d3, must be lens choice and PEBCAK errors.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2013, 09:54:27 AM »
eninja, what lens/lenses are you shooting with on the 6D? Your questions would be better answered specifically referring to your actual equipment rather than general settings from random body and lens types.
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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set?
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2013, 10:14:22 AM »
As low as possible...as fast as necessary!
I agree.

Some (light) situations allow for higher ISO than others.

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Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set? Aperture?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2013, 10:38:33 AM »
5D3: 100 to 12800. 25600 is grainy and I have not shot much so I can't comment.

300D: 100 to 400. 800 is grainy and I don't like the 1600 but one particular shot turned out ok after I cleaned it up in LR.

f-stop and shutter speed as per exposure. I don't have fast primes so my aperture is usually 4 and above...

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