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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2013, 03:35:01 PM »
This might sound pretty stupid but I rather ask.
I just receive my 6D. I tried to mount different lens, including my Helios 44-2. I was able to focus to infinity with all of them without problem. I am wondering if I understand right. I mounted the lens while on the closest focusing distance, then slowly focus toward the infinity and never notice resistance. Is this how you check for mirror issues? If I take a photo at infinity with the Helios 44-2, will the mirror slam into the back of the lens?
Thanks a lot!

It's nothing so dramatic.  What will happen (typically towards infinity focus), is that after taking the picture the mirror will hang and the viewfinder will go dark.  Bringing the focus back will typically release it.  It probably does almost no damage, but do it repetitively and you would start to get some fine dust from the edge of the mirror on your sensor.  I've had mirror hang many times before but never done any appreciable damage.

If you have one that doesn't focus to infinity, you can get around that by shooting in Live View mode before you focus to infinity.  Just be sure to back the focus back off before disabling Live View (at which time the mirror will go down).

Thank you again! I just tried with both SMC Pentax-M 28mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.7. Sadly, neither works a infinity.  :(

Are these K mount lenses?  I have the M42 SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5 and the SMC Tak 55mm f/1.8 and both work perfectly

Sorry, I forgot to specify; they are K mount lens.
6D, 550D; Samyang 14mm f/2.8, Zuiko 28mm f/3.5, Samyang 35mm f/1.4, Zuiko 50mm f/1.8, Sears 55mm f/1.4, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2, Canon 85mm f/1.8, Carl Zeiss Jena 135mm f/3.5, Kenko Extension Tubes.

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2013, 03:35:01 PM »

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2013, 05:37:29 PM »
This might sound pretty stupid but I rather ask.
I just receive my 6D. I tried to mount different lens, including my Helios 44-2. I was able to focus to infinity with all of them without problem. I am wondering if I understand right. I mounted the lens while on the closest focusing distance, then slowly focus toward the infinity and never notice resistance. Is this how you check for mirror issues? If I take a photo at infinity with the Helios 44-2, will the mirror slam into the back of the lens?
Thanks a lot!

It's nothing so dramatic.  What will happen (typically towards infinity focus), is that after taking the picture the mirror will hang and the viewfinder will go dark.  Bringing the focus back will typically release it.  It probably does almost no damage, but do it repetitively and you would start to get some fine dust from the edge of the mirror on your sensor.  I've had mirror hang many times before but never done any appreciable damage.

If you have one that doesn't focus to infinity, you can get around that by shooting in Live View mode before you focus to infinity.  Just be sure to back the focus back off before disabling Live View (at which time the mirror will go down).

Thank you again! I just tried with both SMC Pentax-M 28mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.7. Sadly, neither works a infinity.  :(

Are these K mount lenses?  I have the M42 SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5 and the SMC Tak 55mm f/1.8 and both work perfectly

Sorry, I forgot to specify; they are K mount lens.

That is good to know.  I have tested very few K Mount lenses on Canon full frame bodies.  I'm not overly surprised by the 28mm, but a bit surprised by the 50mm.  I wonder if K Mount lenses need a bit more room?
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2013, 10:13:10 PM »
This might sound pretty stupid but I rather ask.
I just receive my 6D. I tried to mount different lens, including my Helios 44-2. I was able to focus to infinity with all of them without problem. I am wondering if I understand right. I mounted the lens while on the closest focusing distance, then slowly focus toward the infinity and never notice resistance. Is this how you check for mirror issues? If I take a photo at infinity with the Helios 44-2, will the mirror slam into the back of the lens?
Thanks a lot!

It's nothing so dramatic.  What will happen (typically towards infinity focus), is that after taking the picture the mirror will hang and the viewfinder will go dark.  Bringing the focus back will typically release it.  It probably does almost no damage, but do it repetitively and you would start to get some fine dust from the edge of the mirror on your sensor.  I've had mirror hang many times before but never done any appreciable damage.

If you have one that doesn't focus to infinity, you can get around that by shooting in Live View mode before you focus to infinity.  Just be sure to back the focus back off before disabling Live View (at which time the mirror will go down).

Thank you again! I just tried with both SMC Pentax-M 28mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.7. Sadly, neither works a infinity.  :(

Are these K mount lenses?  I have the M42 SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5 and the SMC Tak 55mm f/1.8 and both work perfectly

Sorry, I forgot to specify; they are K mount lens.

That is good to know.  I have tested very few K Mount lenses on Canon full frame bodies.  I'm not overly surprised by the 28mm, but a bit surprised by the 50mm.  I wonder if K Mount lenses need a bit more room?

It might be. I am going to test with the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/4 Macro.
6D, 550D; Samyang 14mm f/2.8, Zuiko 28mm f/3.5, Samyang 35mm f/1.4, Zuiko 50mm f/1.8, Sears 55mm f/1.4, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2, Canon 85mm f/1.8, Carl Zeiss Jena 135mm f/3.5, Kenko Extension Tubes.

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2013, 11:26:06 PM »
I tried today the Helios 44-2 on my 6D and I am happy to say that it work perfectly, even at infinity. I though it was a great lens when using it on a APS-C body, but on FF, I must say it is simply fabulous!
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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2013, 09:24:30 AM »
I tried today the Helios 44-2 on my 6D and I am happy to say that it work perfectly, even at infinity. I though it was a great lens when using it on a APS-C body, but on FF, I must say it is simply fabulous!

Agreed.  I actually didn't like the 44-2 on my crop body very much, but it sings on a FF body.
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 11:20:34 AM »
Here's one I took a day or so ago with the 6D and SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8 (which, other than being manual focus, doesn't really behave like a vintage lens at all.  It's color, contrast, sharpness, and even flare resistance gives up very little to modern lenses).


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2013, 08:44:34 AM »
Helios 44-2 (love it!)


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 09:14:25 AM »
Here's another Helios shot - done up painterly style:


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2013, 08:51:38 AM »
Here's one with the Helios 44-4.  This effect is in camera - I dragged the shutter while moving the camera up in a vertical line.


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2013, 11:19:53 AM »
Hello! I am looking for a nice, sharp and not too expensive medium telephoto in m42 mount (at less 135mm, as I already have a 85mm f/1.8 ). Any idea? For now, the best price/quality ratio seems to be with the Jupiter 37A-AM 135mm f/3.5; any experience? Even more important, does anybody knows if there is mirror issues for that lens with the 6D? Thanks for the help!
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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2013, 11:41:20 AM »
Hello! I am looking for a nice, sharp and not too expensive medium telephoto in m42 mount (at less 135mm, as I already have a 85mm f/1.8 ). Any idea? For now, the best price/quality ratio seems to be with the Jupiter 37A-AM 135mm f/3.5; any experience? Even more important, does anybody knows if there is mirror issues for that lens with the 6D? Thanks for the help!

Jupiter is a nice choice.  I actually like the Super Takumar 150mm f/4 quite a bit.  Very compact telephoto, but excellent Takumar color rendering and sharpness wide open is quite good.  Very nice portrait lens.
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2013, 12:21:20 PM »
Hello! I am looking for a nice, sharp and not too expensive medium telephoto in m42 mount (at less 135mm, as I already have a 85mm f/1.8 ). Any idea? For now, the best price/quality ratio seems to be with the Jupiter 37A-AM 135mm f/3.5; any experience? Even more important, does anybody knows if there is mirror issues for that lens with the 6D? Thanks for the help!

Jupiter is a nice choice.  I actually like the Super Takumar 150mm f/4 quite a bit.  Very compact telephoto, but excellent Takumar color rendering and sharpness wide open is quite good.  Very nice portrait lens.

Thanks! Do you know if either as mirror clearance problem?
6D, 550D; Samyang 14mm f/2.8, Zuiko 28mm f/3.5, Samyang 35mm f/1.4, Zuiko 50mm f/1.8, Sears 55mm f/1.4, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2, Canon 85mm f/1.8, Carl Zeiss Jena 135mm f/3.5, Kenko Extension Tubes.

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2013, 03:00:14 PM »
Hello! I am looking for a nice, sharp and not too expensive medium telephoto in m42 mount (at less 135mm, as I already have a 85mm f/1.8 ). Any idea? For now, the best price/quality ratio seems to be with the Jupiter 37A-AM 135mm f/3.5; any experience? Even more important, does anybody knows if there is mirror issues for that lens with the 6D? Thanks for the help!

Jupiter is a nice choice.  I actually like the Super Takumar 150mm f/4 quite a bit.  Very compact telephoto, but excellent Takumar color rendering and sharpness wide open is quite good.  Very nice portrait lens.

Thanks! Do you know if either as mirror clearance problem?

I've never encountered any mirror issues with any of the 135mm  and up M42 lenses I have tried (quite a few of them).  You almost never have mirror issues past 85mm
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2013, 04:46:39 PM »
I have a Super Tak 50 1.4 that I very much like. I would like to get a Helios 44-2. I love the images that come that I have seen. My question is do all the Helios 44-2 share the same Super Tak mount; basically will my current adapter work with any Helios 44-2 or do I need to be looking for specific mount descriptions on ebay?

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2013, 05:43:10 PM »
I have a Super Tak 50 1.4 that I very much like. I would like to get a Helios 44-2. I love the images that come that I have seen. My question is do all the Helios 44-2 share the same Super Tak mount; basically will my current adapter work with any Helios 44-2 or do I need to be looking for specific mount descriptions on ebay?

Just make sure it is M42 (which most of them are anyway).
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: New 6D and M42 lenses capability.
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2013, 05:43:10 PM »