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How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially -  

Trashed as not good enough an upgrade
17 (33.3%)
Sensor not good enough
11 (21.6%)
Too expensive to upgrade
18 (35.3%)
Not good enough autofocus
1 (2%)
Not comparable to some Nikon's offering
4 (7.8%)

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Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« on: January 27, 2013, 04:09:58 AM »
The wait for the 7DII / 70D reminds me of the building anticipation for the 5DIII. When launched, it was intially trashed by people (remember the thread "Is the 5D3 good at anything") and subsequently became everyone's (except 1DX users) favourite camera.

Do you think the 7DII / 70D will go the same route? What will be the criticisms?
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Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« on: January 27, 2013, 04:09:58 AM »

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 04:21:21 AM »
I think it'll be just a general bashing of the 7DII overall. I'm only expecting some upgrades to the mp count, fps and focus system. Personally I'm hanging out for it to be released to decide whether to upgrade my 600D to a current 7D or spend the extra $$ on a MkII.
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 04:30:12 AM »
As your question is
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How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially:
why are there no positive options? All those you have put up are negative.

I am hoping the 7D Mark II will be a pleasant surprise for everyone. If there was something likely to upset then it could be the price, but who knows, nobody even knows when it will be announced - never mind released.
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 04:38:00 AM »
Do you think the 7DII / 70D will go the same route? What will be the criticisms?

Obviously you're trying to make the point that whatever Canon does, Canon haters won't like the 7d2/70d ...

... personally I'm convinced these will be very nice cameras (after all "even" my 60d is) but I expect them to be either very expensive (7d2) or depraved of "pro" or advanced features (70d). Imho Canon is not yet ready to turn around from their pro-oriented "double the price" strategy as recently seen with the 6d.

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 04:59:06 AM »
As your question is
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How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially:
why are there no positive options? All those you have put up are negative.

I am hoping the 7D Mark II will be a pleasant surprise for everyone. If there was something likely to upset then it could be the price, but who knows, nobody even knows when it will be announced - never mind released.

Over the past few years nobody has been happy with Canon's offerings when they are released. Boards are rife with complaints, whines and heartburn. I really don't expect too many favorable reviews "initially" partly because the wait has been too long and expectations are sky high!

I say "initially" because after the dust settles, people do upgrade and we start getting comments like - what a great camera! 
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 05:57:27 AM »
I say "initially" because after the dust settles, people do upgrade and we start getting comments like - what a great camera!

Of course, people always tend to see their purchases in a more forgiving light - after all you don't want to go on grumbling for years, just like any holiday was just great if talking to your friends even though a tornado hit your hotel.

And all current dslr cameras are very good and up to most tasks, starting from any Rebel 550d+ or 40d+ ... but even if I buy a 6d (which I'm most probably going to do) I'll still say that it is either under-speced or over-priced, just I like my 60d but have to state that cutting afma was idiotic and that the 18mp sensor is iso/shadow-noise limited in many situations.

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 06:07:32 AM »
I saw the price development of 2012. I expect a 7D MK II to be much more expensive than the current 7D at launch. For sure you have to wait a minimum of 6 to 12 months before the price will go down to sane level.
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 06:07:32 AM »

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 08:55:58 AM »
Personally, I do not upgrade every model... I am happy with my 60D and get great pictures with it. I would rather buy glass than incremental improvement, better glass has benefitted me more than better sensors. If the 70D or 7Dii is worlds above the 60D I might consider it, but I will probably wait for the 80D or 7Diii. It is hard to see great improvement from one model to another but if you look back over several generations the improvements are obvious.
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 11:30:49 AM »
If it’s (Edit: 7D2) got the new sensor tech I think it will and should be welcomed with open arms, prices change, new manufacturing processes are really pinning your colours to the mast.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 11:48:17 AM by zim »

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »
For its price, the 7D is a very well spec'd body already.
So, I don't think that Canon can change the specs too much - without also raising the 7DII price too much.

Thus, I predict that many will disappointed by the similar/same specs (same 19-point AF? wtf, I'm switching to Nikon  :-*);

For me, though, the most important upgrade is the sensor.
If the 7DII sensor is really better than the 7D sensor (not like the 5DII -> 5DIII sensor 'upgrade'), I'll be very happy.
Even if the rest of the specs are the same.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM by x-vision »

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 09:32:39 PM »
None of those poll options are mutually exclusive...
The most critical and damning of receptions would be indifference...which I am toward both those models.
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 11:28:37 PM »
There needs to be a option for exceeds expectations. I personally feel my two 7D's have been way better then anything I could have hoped for. I waited for the 5D Mark III before buying my first FF and I have to say it has blown my expectations away. Don't think that I would say Canon can do no wrong. I purchased the EOS M and sent it back as to me it was a peace of Sh*t. I have also don't think very highly of my 2 580EX Speedlights and can't wait to try the 600 I will be getting in a month.

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2013, 08:30:16 PM »
I think you forgot "All of the above"...  8)

It seems to me, in the brief time I've been in the Canon universe that not even Canon can make something that will completely satisfy all of the reviewers, pundits, and people with a laptop and a blog...
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 01:05:52 PM »
I believe that the 7D Mark2 will receive the market priced at about 2500€ in Europe.
I velieve that there will be some improvements.
But I do not think that there will be some overwhelming improvements. There will - maybe - an new processor. Digic V. Maybe Dual Digi V. Better quality in Iso > 1600. less noise. More DR.
But I do no think that there will an big update on the AF.

I think that some of us are expecting an cropped 1Dx or 5D Mark III. We will see, if that comes true.

If the D400 from Nikon will be as good as the D800/600 as an crop model, Canon will have to do its best. Otherwise, there will be another gap opened.

And: Don´t forget all the new small pocket Cameras, that are nearly as good as the DSLRs. They will cut of the market of the DSLRs.

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Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 01:11:35 PM »
I love my 7D.  I just wished that its autofocus was a bit faster and more precise in low light and that it did a better job at noise reduction.  In my opinion, those are the areas that Canon really needs to work on if it intends to bring forth a successor to this camera.

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