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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2013, 01:59:46 PM »
It will, I believe, be for less than the 6D.

Not necessarily, at least not the starting price. Canon's strategy is to use a ridiculously high release price, then wait until all early adopters suckers paid up, then lower the price, wait some again and repeat until the camera body is phased out. And there will be early 7d2 adopters because of the crop factor, €1000 more or less doesn't exactly matter for many people who are able to afford Canon tele primes.

I guess they can also afford the 1DX and wouldn't care about the latest crop cam

$2500ish and $5500ish are still rather different sums of money!

1DX has a LOT less reach than the 7D

1DX is a giant brick

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2013, 01:59:46 PM »

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2013, 02:01:33 PM »
What would be the improvement in a new 50 f/1.4 have over the old one?

Build quality, plain and simple. Actually, all they'd have to do is make that inside barrel out of something a little more solid than plastic, and the problem would be solved.

part of the problem is likely the AF design itself too though, it was the first clutched non-ring USM lens.... and also the last.

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2013, 02:07:33 PM »

"There will be 3 DSLRs launched in 2013, two of them will be “entry level” and one will be “mid level”. The two entry level cameras will probably be a new Rebel and a 70D.

The midlevel camera is probably the EOS 7D Mark II. This camera will get its own launch festivities sometime in the second half of 2013 we’re told.

...4 new EF lenses will be launched in 2013, there was no mention of exactly which lenses it would be"

==>  This may be  reliable source; even so, what has he/she really told us?  Specifically?  ...not much.    ???

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2013, 02:23:18 PM »
This may be  reliable source; even so, what has he/she really told us?  Specifically?  ...not much.    ???

That's why this is a rumor site. It gives us something to speculate about.

Also, us expecting a major EF lens release and dSLR body every second sunday is rather laughable.

Also, CR clearly did not consult those Japanese tourists from the earlier post... they clearly have more firmer answers  ;D
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« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2013, 03:27:46 PM »
everything points to a new 100-400L

I believe in a 100-400 L II when I see it. This lens is the successor of the never going to be updated 24-70 2.8 IS / II here on CannonRumors ::)
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« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2013, 03:29:05 PM »
It would be nice to have an update on the 50mm f/1.4 - at least I am curious about it.

What would be the improvement in a new 50 f/1.4 have over the old one?
As an amateur the current lens works pretty well for me. Took a picture just yesterday. Very low light. Only source was a flatscreen. No NR applied.



oh that´s simple.

AF that does not break that often.
the 50mm f1.4 is one of the lenses where the focus breaks quite often.

better border sharpness.
better sharpness at f1.4

less bokeh fringing.
better bokeh overall on FF cameras.

the lens is good but that does not mean there is nothing to improve.
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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2013, 03:32:36 PM »
Let's see... 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS II, 14-24 f/2.8L, and TSE-90 f/2.8L, and TSE-45 f/2.8L.

That's four, right? :P
I'm liking the possibilty of a 100-400mm (I'm dreaming again) and the 14-24mm to rival the Nikon's version.
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« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2013, 03:35:57 PM »
How about we all just go shoot photographs with the cameras and lenses we have right now, and meet back here in a year! Doesn't look like much of anything interesting will be happening, and to me that's actually fine- I don't have to spend any money for a few minutes!

The technology is really getting good, upgrades are so minor these days, there's no real excuses left.

I think I'll buy an X100s though just to satisfy my sickness.

Cheers!
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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2013, 04:02:34 PM »
The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it.

From a DxO-minded, sensor-only viewpoint, sure.  But what's the lens selection like over there?  I think you know the answer, as a few posts later, you wish for a 400mm lens.

You mean from a hyperbole and BS viewpoint since with the exception of a few very specially concocted test scenarios, the “IQ” of all these cameras, including those from Canon will be indistinguishable.

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« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2013, 04:05:22 PM »
So for those of us where it isn't obvious what the 4 lenses might be - in decreasing order of likelihood:

1) Non-L 50mm IS f 1.4-1.8 to replace the venerable 50mm f 1.4
- With the pancake 40mm, and the nifty 50mm, do they keep the 50mm as is or make a little refinement to it too? Could they do much for the price?

2-4/5) Successor /replacement to the 85mm f/1.8, 24mm, 28mm, 35mm

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« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2013, 04:21:47 PM »
It would be nice to have an update on the 50mm f/1.4 - at least I am curious about it.

What would be the improvement in a new 50 f/1.4 have over the old one?
As an amateur the current lens works pretty well for me. Took a picture just yesterday. Very low light. Only source was a flatscreen. No NR applied.



oh that´s simple.

AF that does not break that often.
the 50mm f1.4 is one of the lenses where the focus breaks quite often.

better border sharpness.
better sharpness at f1.4

less bokeh fringing.
better bokeh overall on FF cameras.

the lens is good but that does not mean there is nothing to improve.
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Better control of coma would be nice, too.

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #101 on: January 27, 2013, 04:37:19 PM »
So for those of us where it isn't obvious what the 4 lenses might be - in decreasing order of likelihood:

1) Non-L 50mm IS f 1.4-1.8 to replace the venerable 50mm f 1.4
- With the pancake 40mm, and the nifty 50mm, do they keep the 50mm as is or make a little refinement to it too? Could they do much for the price?

2-4/5) Successor /replacement to the 85mm f/1.8, 24mm, 28mm, 35mm

?


Again, from a feature set / modernization perspective, the new 50 IS will blow the 50/1.4 out of the water.  Better build, better focusing, IS, faster focusing, better fringing, etc.  From a pure sharpness and max aperture perspective, the new 50 IS may not offer that much.

But it will be pricey.  I'd guess $700-800 in line with the other new non-L IS primes.

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #102 on: January 27, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »

  • It continues to shock me that Canon is top of the line for lenses, AF, and ergonomics (in my opinion), yet it continues to have poor sensors compared to the competition.  I don't put too much faith in those DXO scores, but the dynamic range data out there, particularly in low ISO, gives compelling reason that Sony/Nikon sensors are a solid step ahead of Canon's.  Heck, in some of these tests we're seeing lower price point sensors beat the Canon counterparts (D600 trumping the 5D3, for instance).


How many of those complaining about Canon's "poor" sensors have done a real world comparison as opposed to reading lab reports?  I own a 5DII and a Rebel and recently rented a 5DIII and, together, a 6D and Nikon D600 and spent a few days switching between the D600 and 6D.  Not once did I think the image created by the D600 looked better than its 6D counterpart, (I tend to prefer the colours conjured up by Canon, and I'm inclined to attribute the greater sharpness of the Canon photos to the superiority of the Canon lenses, but who knows?), and I found the D600 a pain to use.  The Nikon sensor may have superior dynamic range, but I was able to restore detail to blown-out highlights in LR4 at least as well in the 6D as I was in the D600.  The D600 may allow for better detail retrieval at the opposite end of the spectrum, but that's not something I tend to do and in the couple of photos I tried the differences struck me as trivial.   Others may feel different, depending on how/what they shoot.  But I certainly didn't come away from the experience with sensor envy, let alone Nikon lens envy (as for Nikon's ergonomics...); rather, I just bought a 6D.   

(I have no comment on the relative virtues of current crop sensors; I used to own a Pentax K-5, which probably had the best sensor of any crop DSLR, slightly better in low light than that in my Rebel - the trouble is, you have to put up with inferior focusing, generally inferior lenses etc., etc.)

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« Reply #102 on: January 27, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »

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<p><strong>What’s coming this year<br />

</strong>A very reliable source has told us what Canon has planned in 2013 as far as product launches go. This is looking to be a slower year for new Canon products, especially when compared to 2012.</p>
<p>None of this includes new Cinema EOS products.</p>
<p><strong>Cameras<br />

</strong>There will be 3 DSLRs launched in 2013, two of them will be “entry level” and one will be “mid level”. The two entry level cameras will probably be a new Rebel and a 70D.</p>
<p>The midlevel camera is probably the EOS 7D Mark II. This camera will get its own launch festivities sometime in the second half of 2013 we’re told.</p>
<p>There will also be one new EOS-M body, which is a pretty logical step forward for the platform.</p>
<p><strong>Lenses<br />

</strong>4 new EF lenses will be launched in 2013, there was no mention of exactly which lenses it would be. We all know the usual suspects, and everything points to a new 100-400L and that would sit nicely next to a new 7D.</p>
<p>We’re hoping to get a more detailed breakdown of the upcoming lenses soon.</p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>


Predictions:

100-400mm f/4.0-5/6 IS L - same image quality at f/4.0 as the old 70-200mm f2.8 L  IS Classic (better than the current version but worse than the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS)

50mm f/1.8 IS

35mm 1.4 L II (Sigma beater)

14-24mm f/2.8 L

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Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2013, 05:11:24 PM »
It would be nice to have an update on the 50mm f/1.4 - at least I am curious about it.

That lens was updated. Strange though, Canon is stamping "Sigma" on the side  ;D

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« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2013, 05:11:24 PM »