Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]

[taz]

Here is what i think: 

Rebel: 1200d (new sensor, low specs) and 70d (same 18 mpix sensor with 19 AF points, more fps, wifi and gps, video button, touch screen)

Mid level: 7d with new sensor and new specs.

2014: rebel/700d with the sensor from the "7D version 2".

[-Jarred-]

7 D II in the 2. half of 2013 -> 

Yeah, more time to save I 'spose!

In another forum they suppose >2500$ for the MK 2.     I hope they will be wrong with this rumor

Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

[Marsu42]

Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

Of course they would, the 6d is entry level (it just happens to be full frame), the 7d is medium to pro (sports/wildlife aps-c) ... the 1.6x lens magnification is the reason many photogs have a 7d even if they could easily afford a 5d3.

Think of the price difference of a 300mm lens to a 300x1.6 ~= 500mm lens - that's the amount of money you can save when buying aps-c over ff, and Canon know they can add a part of the difference on top of the 7d2 price.

[bardamu]

2nd half of 2013 eh?  Hangin' out for that 7d mk ii...  assuming it lives up to expectations I've decided that it is the most logical upgrade path for me...  my 550D has taken a beating and now has a dead pixel and some posterisation issues with the LCD screen, not to mention I'm after some higher level specs in a few areas.  Still a very handy camera though.

I guess if my 550D kicks the bucket I'll have to replace it with a 600D, which are dirt cheap these days, or a 7D classic maybe.  I suppose if the 7D mk ii delivers what we hope for then it might be worth waiting for.  I'm guessing a price of $2200-$2300, surely the price can't go too close to that of the 5D mk iii...

 

[Don Haines]

If we assume no sensor improvements, we get the following:

Look at the T4i. You can't pimp it out much more. The only things missing are wireless and GPS. Other than that, it has every function canon has for a camera. If there was a new rebel, you have to add this. This leaves the 70D with the only possible improvements over the new rebel as better build, shoulder display, and the reintroduction of AFMA. Since they said it would be incremental improvement..... No new sensor....

The 7Dii, if it is to better than the 70D, would have to be dual processors for higher fps....plus all the 70D functions except for tilt/swivel screen.

The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it. A new sensor is long overdue and no upgrade will be worth it until they release one. I just hope they do it before we add iPhone to the list of cameras with better sensors.

[Sphyn0x]

Here is what i think: 

Rebel: 1200d (new sensor, low specs) and 70d (same 18 mpix sensor with 19 AF points, more fps, wifi and gps, video button, touch screen)

Mid level: 7d with new sensor and new specs.

2014: rebel/700d with the sensor from the "7D version 2".

I hope there will be no touchscreen. Regular swivel screen is enough.

[FunPhotons]

Well that's too bad - no high MP body, but good for my wallet I guess. 

If they release a new 100-400 I'll get it though.

[motorhead]

So no response to Nikons D800e any time soon then! I'm not surprised, because historically Canon do like to take their time. Hopefully it means that when we do see a new IDs or its equivalent it will have been worth the wait and does not instead mean that they have no idea how to outdo the D800E!

[Don Haines]

I hope there will be no touchscreen. Regular swivel screen is enough.

You will probably see touch screens on everything now. It's easier on the design process to have a common screen across bodies and cheaper for mass production. It also means less different parts in a repair depot. You can always turn the touch functionality off....

[well_dunno]

I wonder what Nikon's roadmap is and how their competitive launch will compare to Canon's...

Probably a D7000 replacement one could expect, over at nikon rumors news as this one are showing up:
http://nikonrumors.com/2013/01/21/nikon-d7000-listed-as-discontinued-in-australian-retailer.aspx/

I wonder whether they are looking into something more like the 5Dmk3 - D800/e, for the good and bad, does not seem to be aimed at the same market segment and as much as Canon needs a direct competitor to D800, Nikon would need a direct competitor to 5Dmk3... At least the idea comes to mind...

[Woody]

If we assume no sensor improvements, we get the following:

Look at the T4i. You can't pimp it out much more. The only things missing are wireless and GPS. Other than that, it has every function canon has for a camera. If there was a new rebel, you have to add this. This leaves the 70D with the only possible improvements over the new rebel as better build, shoulder display, and the reintroduction of AFMA. Since they said it would be incremental improvement..... No new sensor....

The 7Dii, if it is to better than the 70D, would have to be dual processors for higher fps....plus all the 70D functions except for tilt/swivel screen.

The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it. A new sensor is long overdue and no upgrade will be worth it until they release one. I just hope they do it before we add iPhone to the list of cameras with better sensors.

Well said. I've replaced my APS-C stuff with the Oly OM-D E-M5.

[K-amps]

7 D II in the 2. half of 2013 -> 

Yeah, more time to save I 'spose!

In another forum they suppose >2500$ for the MK 2.     I hope they will be wrong with this rumor

Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

They would not want to limit themselves by what size sensor they put in the 6D... other functionality also affects price... not just sensor size.

I am of the opinion that the 6D should have been named the 8D... this would have allowed them to up price the 7dii.... but they can always break the rules of pricing smaller model numbers less than larger numbers...

They will break naming conventions if they see it makes them more money...

[Dukinald]

7 D II in the 2. half of 2013 -> 

Yeah, more time to save I 'spose!

In another forum they suppose >2500$ for the MK 2.     I hope they will be wrong with this rumor

So for me, this would be an end of year purchase as I'm not an early adopter.

Oh well, if the price is what you've indicated, the 6D will be the update path for me.

[Don Haines]

If we assume no sensor improvements, we get the following:

Look at the T4i. You can't pimp it out much more. The only things missing are wireless and GPS. Other than that, it has every function canon has for a camera. If there was a new rebel, you have to add this. This leaves the 70D with the only possible improvements over the new rebel as better build, shoulder display, and the reintroduction of AFMA. Since they said it would be incremental improvement..... No new sensor....

The 7Dii, if it is to better than the 70D, would have to be dual processors for higher fps....plus all the 70D functions except for tilt/swivel screen.

The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it. A new sensor is long overdue and no upgrade will be worth it until they release one. I just hope they do it before we add iPhone to the list of cameras with better sensors.

Well said. I've replaced my APS-C stuff with the Oly OM-D E-M5.

I'm wondering about the e-5 successor.... The 50-200 is a nice chunk of glass and the 12-60 is nothing to sneeze at either..... Just wished they had a 400 or 500 for birding/wildlife

[Bob Howland]

After the introduction of the Metabones Speed Booster, I have to wonder if Canon will introduce a version of their own for M-bodies and EF lenses. Conceivably, they could make one with 0.62996 magnification (1.5874 crop factor) while increasing the aperture by 1-1/3 stops, an improvement of 1/3 stops over the Metabones.