5D III or 1D IV for sports!

[bdunbar79]

I used a 7D for two seasons for sports and it was great.  I've got a 5D3 but haven't used that and don't intend to.  I bought a used 1D4 last year that had 100K clicks.  The shutter has a 300K life but two months after my purchase, it crashed. 

I'm a CPS member, so I had it replaced out of warranty in 3 days for $300.  To me, its now like a new camera even with the extra $300 paid for the new shutter.  Honestly, the body is a bit beat up but the end result is whats really important to me and my viewers.

The 1D4 iso performance and fps is so much better than the 7D imho.  I wouldn't go back to the 7D however I might consider adding the new 7D2? when it gets released depending on spex. in addition to the 1D4.  Would love to have the 1DX but its not really in the budget yet.

As you know the 1D4 has a 1.3 crop and the 7D has a 1.6 crop so you lose a little distance with the 1D4.  1D4 batteries are still very expensive.

You actually don't lose any distance.  A 1D4 image cropped to the same FOV to an uncropped 7D image still has higher IQ.

I do agree, however, that the 7D is a great outdoor sports and wildlife camera, especially with the reach!

[EvillEmperor]

I have never used the 1DIV before, but I use my school's 7D every sporting event. I then rented the 5D MK III for the day, and, speed wise, I couldn't tell the difference. Yes, I know using AF while continuously shooting with the 7D slows it down, but the 5D was faster in tricky af situations, even with 100% AF.

[alexanderferdinand]

I have both cameras.
For sports I always take the 1d4.
Reasons: higher fps, faster with teles, the 1.3 crop.
And last but not least: the continuos AF is a bit more

The only thing I am spoiled since I have the 5d3- grip: I would like the 1d to have the second knob changing  my AF- filed using it in portrait mode......

[BrandonKing96]

5DMK3 since you don't have any problem regarding the lens focal length but is having problem with ISO.  5D3 is better in ISO performance than 1DSMK3 by at least one or two stops.  1D4 is much worse than 1DSMK3 in ISO performance.

Don't know what camera you're looking at, but the 1D IV is superior to the 1Ds III in ISO performance.

I'd honestly go for the 1D IV.  Considering that you're used to a 1D style body too.

But for sports- 10 fps? great ISO performance? 1.3x crop factor? superior build? Yes x1000000.

I'd go for a 1D IV over a 5D III in your purpose. 
Shoot me if you will, but I sometimes feel as if I should trade my 5D III for a 1D IV, but I tend to work with landscapes more so I wouldn't. 

It would be good to have that old flagship combo of a 1D IV and 1Ds III.

[jrista]

First of all, THE important thing is this is mainly for sports (hockey-often, basketball and volley ball- sometimes, football and soccer-rarely) Will use 2470, 70200 and new Sigma 120-300 when it comes out. Currently I use the 1Dmk3 and 1Dsmk3 with the 2470 and 70200 and find the ISO fairly hard to push over 3200, even at 3200 they are not great. Previously I had a 1D4 but it was sold so I'm looking to get the 5D3 (never used it before) or the 1D4 back, advices?

I think you'll find you are quite hampered by the 6fps frame rate of the 5D III. It may support higher ISO with slightly cleaner results, but when it comes to high speed action like sports, frame rate is probably the more important factor. The AF system of the 1D IV is nothing to shake a stick at, and while not quite as configurable as the 5D III's AF system, it does its job extremely well and has served many sports photographers superbly for a number of years. It is a proven system that offers 10fps, which should give you more keepers to find that perfect shot at the right moment.

Even if you have to push to ISO 3200, the 1D IV is really no slouch at that ISO. It is certainly not as good as the 1D X, however keep in mind the 1D X is really in a class of its own when it comes to ISO performance. The 5D III supports up to ISO 25600 native ISO, but lacks the additional polish that the 1D series gets. Even if the 1D IV is a little noisier than the 5D III, that noise should still be more manageable, and thus easier to clean up in post.

[rdalrt]

For mainly sports, I would (and do, or rather did before I switched to 1dx's) go with the mk4 over the 5d3 every time.

[bdunbar79]

As jrista was getting at, even though the 5D Mark III is newer, I found that I could push and pull RAW files more so with the 1D Mark IV.  That is pretty common with 1D bodies vs. other bodies.

[Chewngum]

I just bought a 1d4 to use alongside my 5d3 but its still in the mail. Any new or interesting info about the 1d4 vs 5d3? I would be shooting weddings and events. how is the 1d4 af in low light?

[stilscream]

I have currently (until I sell 3 bodies) a 7d, a 5d3, a 1d4 and a 1dx. Hands down 1dx wins, but 1div is my second favorite for wildlife (and presumably sports outside of Chess). I would take a 7d or a 5d3 in well lit situations, but for all around versitility-- for landscapes and such, 5d3 kills a 7d in IQ. Though it should, considering the price gap and age. If you want to see a video I posted showing fps of each I have included a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab7ntX1FBhA&feature=youtube_gdata_player