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6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« on: February 02, 2013, 12:05:22 PM »
i've been using 7D and sometimes 5D2 for at least 3 years until i bought 6D recently and love very much for its handling, feature, and high ISO quality, but i notice slight (or maybe big) difference in camera JPEG sharpening method. anyway, both are wonderful full frame camera.

in this condition i compare 6D and 5D2. On the image below, i'm using same studio light setting. in 5D2 the images seems crispier rather than in 6D. i think 6D using unsharp mask method like in photoshop. Personally i like 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method rather than 6D, but luckily i often use RAW file, so i can manage my own sharpening method.

and my question is :
1. does anyone ever notice this? or any explanation for this condition?
2. do we can change in camera JPEG sharpening method ?

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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 12:10:13 PM »
The shot from the 6D seems to have focusing issues. Try taking the shot in LV and see if things improve. You may need AFMA
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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 12:26:48 PM »
My AFMA seems fine.. i have the RAW converted version from that 6D shot here :


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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 12:39:52 PM »
My AFMA seems fine.. i have the RAW converted version from that 6D shot here :


Then it is likely to be camera settings. I assume the picture style is the same.

The first thing that comes to my mind is the NR settings ... What ISO were these shot at and what NR setting was used? I'm guessing here because I rarely shoot jpg.
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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 01:17:31 PM »
Personally i like 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method rather than 6D, but luckily i often use RAW file, so i can manage my own sharpening method.

The 5d2 has the sharpest sensor output, esp. at lower iso, of the 5d2/5d3/6d generations, so it can do with less in-camera postprocessing. The 6d is at the other end of the scale, it trades some sharpness for higher iso capability - to compensate, Canon obviously has implemented more aggressive sharpening. I don't think you can do anything about this except bug Canon for a fw update.

I remember this issue being discussed when the first 6d raw and jpeg samples were out. This is more or less the difference between the "pro" 5d2 and the 6d which is tuned for sooc amateur shots, Canon has to protect their 5d3 after all :-o

Btw. the difference between your sample shots is really larger than I'd have expected it, maybe some other problem is at work here in combination with the above sensor difference.

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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 01:13:39 PM »
Personally i like 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method rather than 6D, but luckily i often use RAW file, so i can manage my own sharpening method.

The 5d2 has the sharpest sensor output, esp. at lower iso, of the 5d2/5d3/6d generations, so it can do with less in-camera postprocessing. The 6d is at the other end of the scale, it trades some sharpness for higher iso capability - to compensate, Canon obviously has implemented more aggressive sharpening. I don't think you can do anything about this except bug Canon for a fw update.

I remember this issue being discussed when the first 6d raw and jpeg samples were out. This is more or less the difference between the "pro" 5d2 and the 6d which is tuned for sooc amateur shots, Canon has to protect their 5d3 after all :-o

Btw. the difference between your sample shots is really larger than I'd have expected it, maybe some other problem is at work here in combination with the above sensor difference.

thanks for your answer, yeah i believe 5D2 was a very wonderful camera too, their color characteristic is brilliant and razor sharp in their jpeg mode... unless i shot with studio light, they wont make any difference..
i'm little disappointed in this, but i shoot RAW, so everything will be alright, until i process hundreds or thousands RAW file..

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Re: 6D vs 5D2 in camera JPEG sharpening method
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 01:13:39 PM »