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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2013, 07:37:40 AM »
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the 50mm needs an optical redo but would be a big hit

Respectfully disagree, Sigma has the best 50mm f/1.4 for Canon available, and I include Zeiss in that statement. I think a modern 24mm f/1.4 is the obvious opportunity to me.

Just curious, is there anything wrong with the 24mm f/1.4L II (other than cost)?  Or maybe you are specifically talking about such a lens aimed at APS-C users?

My Issue is with cost tbh, im full frame and need to shoot wide angle but fast for video and landscape.

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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2013, 08:46:52 AM »
I would like to see 24-105mm f4 OS. The Canon version is a bit date, and still expensive; and eventually it will be discontinued, which would leave us only the very expensive 24-70 f2.8 and the slighlty less expensive 24-70 f4 IS. So a Sigma alternative in this area would be very nice, and also a big hit, if Canon really discontinues the 24-105.

I don't see Canon dropping the 24-105mm f/4 without replacing it with some other reasonably priced kit lens.

If Sigma brings out a competing lens, I'd rather see something a bit longer, e.g. 24-120mm f/4 like Nikon's.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2013, 08:48:09 AM »
I am like a cat that dipped its tongue in scalding hot milk with sigma compatibility issues... have been an all Canon outfit for years... it is just possible Sigma turned a corner with the new 35mm, but sorry, Sigma will have to turn a lot more consistent corners before I try that saucer again.

thats kind of like me and Tamron

I do know i've got the 85 f1.4 and its flat out awesome so I really really want to give the new 35 a go

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2013, 10:08:58 AM »
I would like to see 24-105mm f4 OS. The Canon version is a bit date, and still expensive; and eventually it will be discontinued, which would leave us only the very expensive 24-70 f2.8 and the slighlty less expensive 24-70 f4 IS. So a Sigma alternative in this area would be very nice, and also a big hit, if Canon really discontinues the 24-105.
The price of a decent standard zooms is a deal breaker for me to going full frame. First I would have to strech my budget to go with a 6D, and then I have to invest another grand into a standard zoom. So I'm still hoping for a nice 70D (like the 50D, just with a modern sensor and wifi+gps).

Depending on where you live, this information mightn't be very helpful, but right now via B&H you can get a 6D + 24-105L kit for a mere $2450.00, with free shipping and, unless you're in NY, no sales tax - which strikes me as being a remarkable bargain.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2013, 10:12:05 AM »
Personally I can't wait for their 85mm f/1.4 art line lens (assuming they will actually make one).  If it's as good as the 35mm, it could be an awesome alternative to the 85mm f/1.2L.


Isn't the current Sigma 85/1.4 already an awesome alternative to the 85L?

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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2013, 01:03:59 PM »
Ellen, I agree, a more extended-range zoom would be great, and is actually a realistic goal, as opposed to my dream lens.  How about a 24-120 f/4, or even a 24-110 f/3.5 with OS?  Sigma could probably sell that for around $1k.  If it was very good optically, they could even start to cut seriously into Nikon and Canon market share.

sdsr, do you own the Sigma 85 f/1.4?  I want to rent that one at some point.  I bought the Rokinon, and I like it a lot...but manual-only focus is a drag at times.  Also not sure it is completely f/1.4, it seems a tad darker than that.  I've owned several sigma products, even a camera...currently have the 17-50 f/2.8 OS, and love it.  The only time I've been published, was using the older 17-70.  They both have very rich color slightly on the warm side, which to me is best.

I agree, I think you're saying the Canon 24-105 is a good deal when it's a kit lens.  If the price on that combo comes down any more, that's when I would buy it.  I still want to see what used 6D's start selling for, though...not because I want to buy used, but I want to see how well it holds its value.  If it's as low as $1150 or so, I think the 5D3 will hold its value better...percentage-wise.  No doubt the first used 6D's will be very high, though...so will be hard to tell.

For me, the target for the kit lens combo would be $2200, or even $2100...if they really want to have a "sale"...or a huge rebate.  Probably won't happen this year though.  Depends what Nikon does next, I guess.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2013, 01:46:30 PM »
Personally I can't wait for their 85mm f/1.4 art line lens (assuming they will actually make one).  If it's as good as the 35mm, it could be an awesome alternative to the 85mm f/1.2L.


Isn't the current Sigma 85/1.4 already an awesome alternative to the 85L?

Yes.

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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 08:21:15 AM »
Ellen, I agree, a more extended-range zoom would be great, and is actually a realistic goal, as opposed to my dream lens.  How about a 24-120 f/4, or even a 24-110 f/3.5 with OS?  Sigma could probably sell that for around $1k.  If it was very good optically, they could even start to cut seriously into Nikon and Canon market share.

Both options would be nice.

I think it would be harder for Sigma to compete with kit lenses, as kit sells a little cheaper than the separate components, so my guess is if Sigma would try to compete, it would try to beat the kit lenses in some additional way to price, e.g. a little faster (as in your f/3.5 example) or a little wider / longer.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 09:48:03 PM »
Ellen, I agree, a more extended-range zoom would be great, and is actually a realistic goal, as opposed to my dream lens.  How about a 24-120 f/4, or even a 24-110 f/3.5 with OS?  Sigma could probably sell that for around $1k.  If it was very good optically, they could even start to cut seriously into Nikon and Canon market share.

Both options would be nice.

I think it would be harder for Sigma to compete with kit lenses, as kit sells a little cheaper than the separate components, so my guess is if Sigma would try to compete, it would try to beat the kit lenses in some additional way to price, e.g. a little faster (as in your f/3.5 example) or a little wider / longer.

a 24-105 f2.8 OS would be awesome

tamron made a 24-105 f2.8 before but by all accounts it wasnt worth using below f4

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2013, 05:28:50 AM »
Interesting.  A lot of things would be awesome.  How about my 60-115mm f/0.8 dream lens?  Wouldn't it be awesome?  I could really shoot some good wildlife in low light with that.  I recall Leica had made a 90mm f/0.9 lens, or something like that.  And Canon had an f/0.7 lens sometime, might have been in the 1960's.  A really fast lens not only lets in enough light to help lower your ISO noise, but also lets in enough light for the AF to work.  I admit it's not a realistic lens to wish for, haha.  Probably impossible to design, as well...especially as a zoom.  Probably vignette horribly, and have tons of CA.


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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2013, 11:11:04 AM »
I really like sigmas new range coming out, but would love to see a 24 1.4, what is anyone else going for?

It seems that the OP's wish might soon be answered - or partially, at least. I was browsing DigitalRev's website recently and noticed that the Sigma 24mm f/1.8 has been discontinued from stock. (The 20mm f/1.8 and 28mm f/1.8 are still in stock). This is pure conjecture but it suggests to me that a new Sigma 24mm might be on the way. Of these three wide primes, 24mm is the most popular focal length so it would certainly make sense to do this one first. If so, my guess would be another f/1.8 but who knows, maybe they'll launch a new f/1.4.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2013, 11:30:41 AM »
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the 50mm needs an optical redo but would be a big hit
Respectfully disagree, Sigma has the best 50mm f/1.4 for Canon available,

I'm pretty sure Sigma will update their 50mm to be compatible with the usb dock sooner or later, and if they further improve the performance Canon's should watch out...

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2013, 12:36:28 PM »
I'd love a new entrant on the 50mm front. Still looking forward to what Canon has to offer in a replacement for the 50mm 1.4 or a new 50 with IS. For now, my Canon 1.4 does the job admirably well, but it's the one lens I have where I feel an update would really improve my kit.
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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2013, 03:03:04 PM »
How about a Sigma 28mm f/1.4?  Canon doesn't make one.

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Re: future of sigma art line
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2013, 03:13:07 PM »
Personally I can't wait for their 85mm f/1.4 art line lens (assuming they will actually make one).  If it's as good as the 35mm, it could be an awesome alternative to the 85mm f/1.2L.


Isn't the current Sigma 85/1.4 already an awesome alternative to the 85L?

According to DxO, the Sigma 85/1.4 scores higher than any Canon lens.  I haven't tried the lens, but I have to wonder how that is possible.
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2013, 03:13:07 PM »