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Marsu42:

--- Quote from: AlanF on February 25, 2013, 05:29:55 PM ---Don't be patronising. Many of my colleagues are Nobel Laureates and they don't talk condescendingly like that.

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I'm impressed :-> ... but I wasn't patronizing, actually I did some work for you and found the links you requested but am missing a "thank you" so far.

The fact that the ml website doesn't advertise dev versions is really not a bug but a feature: a simple Google search for "magic lantern nightly" turns up the link I posted as the first result, and if that's not enough then the general user crowd with a "service, please!" approach are meant to use the official releases as it needs some willingness to invest work to use bleeding edge builds.


--- Quote from: TrumpetPower! on February 25, 2013, 05:46:45 PM ---It's like the novice at the do-it-yourself machine shop asking where the on / off switch is on the four-ton hydraulic press. If you have to ask, it's not for you.

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Thanks for verifying, English is not my first language and I never quite know how it comes across. Btw unfortunately ml really has teeth as the devs have bricked several (sponsored) cameras, but they usually manage to recover them. somehow.

AlanF:

--- Quote from: Marsu42 on February 25, 2013, 06:57:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: AlanF on February 25, 2013, 05:29:55 PM ---Don't be patronising. Many of my colleagues are Nobel Laureates and they don't talk condescendingly like that.

--- End quote ---

I'm impressed :-> ... but I wasn't patronizing, actually I did some work for you and found the links you requested but am missing a "thank you" so far.

The fact that the ml website doesn't advertise dev versions is really not a bug but a feature: a simple Google search for "magic lantern nightly" turns up the link I posted as the first result, and if that's not enough then the general user crowd with a "service, please!" approach are meant to use the official releases as it needs some willingness to invest work to use bleeding edge builds.


--- Quote from: TrumpetPower! on February 25, 2013, 05:46:45 PM ---It's like the novice at the do-it-yourself machine shop asking where the on / off switch is on the four-ton hydraulic press. If you have to ask, it's not for you.

--- End quote ---

Thanks for verifying, English is not my first language and I never quite know how it comes across. Btw unfortunately ml really has teeth as the devs have bricked several (sponsored) cameras, but they usually manage to recover them. somehow.

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As English is not your native language, let me explain the nuances that make the second sentence patronising. The word "pretty" is one problem. "Pretty" in that context is a pejorative word meaning that it is tarted up to appeal to the simple minded. The word "clear" would be acceptable, implying that the current description is obscure. A second is "(that includes you as far as I can see)" because it personalises the comment and also shows you making an assumption about a particular individual, which may well be unwarranted.

The first sentence may sound witty to you, but to others it smacks of arrogance. So, both sentences combined sound unpleasant to a native speaker.

Marsu42:

--- Quote from: AlanF on February 26, 2013, 09:34:45 AM ---The first sentence may sound witty to you, but to others it smacks of arrogance. So, both sentences combined sound unpleasant to a native speaker.

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Ok, thanks for explaining - I didn't want to annoy you, why would I? I'm just trying to spread news about Magic Lantern to keep the project alive and kicking. That often means convincing people that ml is not a hack or dangerous, but in this case the the reverse: people asking for a direct download link plus a installation instruction obviously aren't familiar with ml and aren't meant to use bleeding edge releases.

comsense:

--- Quote from: AlanF on February 26, 2013, 09:34:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Marsu42 on February 25, 2013, 06:57:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: AlanF on February 25, 2013, 05:29:55 PM ---Don't be patronising. Many of my colleagues are Nobel Laureates and they don't talk condescendingly like that.

--- End quote ---

I'm impressed :-> ... but I wasn't patronizing, actually I did some work for you and found the links you requested but am missing a "thank you" so far.

The fact that the ml website doesn't advertise dev versions is really not a bug but a feature: a simple Google search for "magic lantern nightly" turns up the link I posted as the first result, and if that's not enough then the general user crowd with a "service, please!" approach are meant to use the official releases as it needs some willingness to invest work to use bleeding edge builds.


--- Quote from: TrumpetPower! on February 25, 2013, 05:46:45 PM ---It's like the novice at the do-it-yourself machine shop asking where the on / off switch is on the four-ton hydraulic press. If you have to ask, it's not for you.

--- End quote ---

Thanks for verifying, English is not my first language and I never quite know how it comes across. Btw unfortunately ml really has teeth as the devs have bricked several (sponsored) cameras, but they usually manage to recover them. somehow.

--- End quote ---


As English is not your native language, let me explain the nuances that make the second sentence patronising. The word "pretty" is one problem. "Pretty" in that context is a pejorative word meaning that it is tarted up to appeal to the simple minded. The word "clear" would be acceptable, implying that the current description is obscure. A second is "(that includes you as far as I can see)" because it personalises the comment and also shows you making an assumption about a particular individual, which may well be unwarranted.

The first sentence may sound witty to you, but to others it smacks of arrogance. So, both sentences combined sound unpleasant to a native speaker.

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Its pretty clear that you are being oversensitive. Humor off. s/he did not mean to offend you. Just warn in a straightforward way. Also, what do you interpret your reference to Nobel Laureate colleagues as?. I have some and so would many others here. Like normal people some of the Nobel Laureates are very humble but some are incredibly arrogant. And similar are colleagues without Nobel Prize.

hpmuc:

--- Quote from: comsense on February 26, 2013, 11:04:22 AM ---Its pretty clear that you are being oversensitive. Humor off. s/he did not mean to offend you. Just warn in a straightforward way. Also, what do you interpret your reference to Nobel Laureate colleagues as?. I have some and so would many others here. Like normal people some of the Nobel Laureates are very humble but some are incredibly arrogant. And similar are colleagues without Nobel Prize.

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