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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14205 on: August 22, 2017, 04:34:12 PM »
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14206 on: August 22, 2017, 04:38:56 PM »
Jack, have you tried Merlin Bird ID by Cornell Lab of ornithology? It looks a great free app. You can download lists for your area and a photo ID section. This allows you to input your photo, place and date taken. It then provides a list of candidates with excellent photos for comparison.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14207 on: August 22, 2017, 05:49:36 PM »
@ clbayley, Mikehit and Click
Nice pictures; sharp and no distracting elements / background... Well done all!
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14208 on: August 22, 2017, 06:20:16 PM »
Jack, have you tried Merlin Bird ID by Cornell Lab of ornithology? It looks a great free app. You can download lists for your area and a photo ID section. This allows you to input your photo, place and date taken. It then provides a list of candidates with excellent photos for comparison.

Thanks I'd forgotten about them also.  Last look and year or two back and it was a work in progress but very promising.  If I can manage to do what you suggest that would be super.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14209 on: August 22, 2017, 06:22:30 PM »
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Very nice setting for this shot.  Good to see you were out shooting.  Have you come up with some personal settings for your camera that really please you?

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14210 on: August 22, 2017, 06:55:57 PM »
Yes of course, especially with the AF settings.

I use the same setting as Grant Atkinson described in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtGMw-2VD1U

Everything is in "My menu"

Tracking Sencitivity
Accel./Decel Sencitivity
AF PT Auto Switching.

I found this to be more practical than the normal AF options: Case 1 2 3 4 5 6

Thank you for the great tip, Grant!  :)

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14211 on: August 22, 2017, 07:05:00 PM »
Thanks click.  I am not sure if I've seen it but maybe not since it was produced for a camera I decided to forego but I'll look now because there is a lot to digest with this camera's programmability!

I like having magnify X1 via the DOF button for quick right hand reviews but am annoyed that I have to hit the shutter before I can review back through a full burst sequence.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14211 on: August 22, 2017, 07:05:00 PM »

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14212 on: August 23, 2017, 01:25:23 AM »
Hey click, I ended up watching the whole series and they were quite helpful,  more or less confirming what I've struggled to sort out over the last few months.  I will move away from case usage and just fiddle the the three settings as Grant suggests.  I also learned the Q button will skip me through the menus fast.  So, thanks Grant if you happen to read this.

What I sense though is that people who have become comfortable in the ways of the older cameras tend to not modify their technique to keep pace with the potential being offered by increased programmability.  Canon now has a lot of horsepower under the AF hood via button programmability, including a button, ie. AF-ON that can instantly bring a different shutter speed, Fstop and other camera settings (register/recall shooting function).  So without even thinking, just operating the 1st finger and thumb alternately, you can get a fast shutter and zone after just shooting a slow shutter and spot AF, for example.  This can pay ISO dividends.  What really tweaked my fancy was the fact that buttons assigned to AF can be pressed synchronously (together) without conflict because there is an assigned priority, so one will override the other.

Of course there is this problem of remembering all the complexity of settings! :(

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14213 on: August 23, 2017, 02:34:46 AM »
I realize this is off topic but click, or Grant if you're around, it looks like the 1DX2 does not allow the case parameters to be separated from the cases and placed in MY Menu.  Now I'm annoyed.  ;)

I guess I just have to fiddle with each individual case and tweak it if necessary and then use the cases.

Jack
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14214 on: August 23, 2017, 03:44:51 AM »
I realize this is off topic but click, or Grant if you're around, it looks like the 1DX2 does not allow the case parameters to be separated from the cases and placed in MY Menu.  Now I'm annoyed.  ;)

I guess I just have to fiddle with each individual case and tweak it if necessary and then use the cases.

Jack

If I understand Grant's video, you choose the Case that best suits you way of working and you can tweak the AF around that 'reference setting'. The MyMenu method than gives you a quick access to adjust that tweak on the fly.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14215 on: August 23, 2017, 07:28:27 AM »
I realize this is off topic but click, or Grant if you're around, it looks like the 1DX2 does not allow the case parameters to be separated from the cases and placed in MY Menu.  Now I'm annoyed.  ;)

I guess I just have to fiddle with each individual case and tweak it if necessary and then use the cases.

Jack

Hi Jack,
I presume you use the Custom sets for specific, favourite types of photography... On my 7DmkII I have different AF tracking parameters set for C1-C3, while using the default Case 1 in the A / T / M modes.
So, while I learned from Grant's video that I can also put them in MyMenu, the need to do so is less as I have a "locked on" AF setting for wildlife / birds at low altitude in C1, a "responsive" setting for sports / emerging birds in the sky in C2 etc.
From what I know of the 1DXmkII that at least must be possible.
cheers, Wiebe
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14216 on: August 23, 2017, 11:05:12 AM »
Hi Jack,

Very easy:

Go in My Menu, first page

Select: Configure

Then, Select items to register

Then, scroll down to:

-Tracking sensitivity
-Accell./decel.tracking
-AF pt auto switching

Press the Set button for each.

Let me know if you have any problems.

 :)
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14217 on: August 23, 2017, 11:29:55 AM »
Hi Jack,

Very easy:

Go in My Menu, first page

Select: Configure

Then, Select items to register

Then, scroll down to:

-Tracking sensitivity
-Accell./decel.tracking
-AF pt auto switching

Press the Set button for each.

Let me know if you any problems.

 :)

Click, perhaps it was too late last night. :)  I tried exactly what you are saying and those three items don't appear in the list.  I was surprised.  As Wiebe has suggested, it really isn't what one could call a handicap.  Anyway,I have used up all "My Menu" space as is!

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14217 on: August 23, 2017, 11:29:55 AM »

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14218 on: August 23, 2017, 11:30:39 AM »
I realize this is off topic but click, or Grant if you're around, it looks like the 1DX2 does not allow the case parameters to be separated from the cases and placed in MY Menu.  Now I'm annoyed.  ;)

I guess I just have to fiddle with each individual case and tweak it if necessary and then use the cases.

Jack

If I understand Grant's video, you choose the Case that best suits you way of working and you can tweak the AF around that 'reference setting'. The MyMenu method than gives you a quick access to adjust that tweak on the fly.

That's how I see it too.

Jack
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14219 on: August 23, 2017, 11:38:14 AM »
I realize this is off topic but click, or Grant if you're around, it looks like the 1DX2 does not allow the case parameters to be separated from the cases and placed in MY Menu.  Now I'm annoyed.  ;)

I guess I just have to fiddle with each individual case and tweak it if necessary and then use the cases.

Jack

Hi Jack,
I presume you use the Custom sets for specific, favourite types of photography... On my 7DmkII I have different AF tracking parameters set for C1-C3, while using the default Case 1 in the A / T / M modes.
So, while I learned from Grant's video that I can also put them in MyMenu, the need to do so is less as I have a "locked on" AF setting for wildlife / birds at low altitude in C1, a "responsive" setting for sports / emerging birds in the sky in C2 etc.
From what I know of the 1DXmkII that at least must be possible.
cheers, Wiebe

Perhaps I can feel a little less guilty about taking this thread off topic since on further thought it really isn't off the topic of photographing birds. ;)

I'd be interested, if you (or anyone else) care to share, in hearing exactly what logic you used to create the cases for C1..C3 and what settings you typically have for the imagined scenarios when you set it up.  Right now I am determined I want the "register/recall shooting function" as one of my programmable choices.  In that case, I would have it set for a BIF against the sky with exposure compensation on auto ISO and a faster shutter, maybe 1/2000.

Jack
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #14219 on: August 23, 2017, 11:38:14 AM »