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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2130 on: August 03, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »
Found this this morning.
Shot with a Kodak Brownie SIX-20 when I was 8 years old.
Developed by my uncle and printed by myself 45 years ago.

ok...i stared at this for a bit and I'm not really sure of what I'm looking at, what is it?
I had the same question. There seem to be some bones...

It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2131 on: August 03, 2013, 11:14:13 AM »
It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2132 on: August 03, 2013, 11:27:13 AM »
It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject. 

I agree.

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« Reply #2133 on: August 03, 2013, 01:18:37 PM »
I use Canon 5D MK II and Canon EF 600 mm. F/ 4.0 L IS USM  with Flash and Better Beamer, on Monopod :

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2134 on: August 03, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.

I'm willing to grant Atonegro some artistic license on this. 

I guess if we want to nitpick: "ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, past participle (used as a noun) of Old French portraire ‘portray’"

Oh, and a bit of Googling: http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/articles/e/egyptian_mummy_portraits.aspx

Yes, it's a portrait.


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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2135 on: August 03, 2013, 01:35:01 PM »
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and then as I'm so proudly examining the images i just took of the herron eating a sunny, this beautiful bald eagle swoops down and snatches a fish right in front of me and starts flying away (second pic) 
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2136 on: August 03, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »
IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.

I'm willing to grant Atonegro some artistic license on this. 

I guess if we want to nitpick: "ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, past participle (used as a noun) of Old French portraire ‘portray’"

Oh, and a bit of Googling: http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/articles/e/egyptian_mummy_portraits.aspx

Yes, it's a portrait.

What kind of cameras did they use in 16th century France?  Oh, and from your link: "This has proved that the portrait did indeed show the person as they appeared during life."

I like picking nits...   ;)
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« Reply #2137 on: August 03, 2013, 02:30:09 PM »
What kind of cameras did they use in 16th century France?
Dude, you're too smart and thoughtful for this kind of argument: if the skeleton had been painted rather than photographed would that have transformed it into a legitimate portrait in your estimation?  Painted portrait or photographed portrait are irrelevant.  What's important is that it "portrays."

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Oh, and from your link: "This has proved that the portrait did indeed show the person as they appeared during life."
I almost addressed this in my original post, but figured you wouldn't go for the obvious fallacy: your original statement was that a portrait should portray a "living subject."  The mummy portraits were painted after the death of the subject, and therefore portray a deceased subject.  If we take your argument regarding the mummy portraits, then a photo of a taxidermied bird could be a portrait because it represents what the bird would have looked like in life.  However, my example only addressed your need for a living subject.  It would have been more legitimate on your part to argue that a bird skeleton is not a bird, but that's a different question.

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I like picking nits...   ;)

Can be a fun, social game since we all have nits.  At least that's what I've learned from gorillas and chimps.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2138 on: August 03, 2013, 03:04:19 PM »
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A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person, in which the face and its expression is predominant. The intent is to display the likeness, personality, and even the mood of the person. For this reason, in photography a portrait is generally not a snapshot, but a composed image of a person in a still position. A portrait often shows a person looking directly at the painter or photographer, in order to most successfully engage the subject with the viewer.

What's the 'mood' of the dead bird?  How well does a dead subject engage with the viewer?

I suppose a portrait is in the eyes of the artist and viewer.  As the viewer, I don't think the bird skeleton was a portrait, any more than the drawings and photos in my bookcase full of anatomical atlases.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2139 on: August 03, 2013, 04:40:54 PM »
I suppose a portrait is in the eyes of the artist and viewer.

Agreed.  The reason I poked you about your comment is that the poster had brought out a memory of his childhood, an image that seemed to have inspired his future photography, and then presented it on the most appropriate forum he found here.  I concede that it's in the gray area for a portrait; but it was heartfelt, and not a troll.  And it was kinda funny too.  Your comment struck me as petty, which your posts usually aren't.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2140 on: August 03, 2013, 04:46:46 PM »
It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject. 

I agree.

I think his bird just took a tern for the worse. :o
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2141 on: August 03, 2013, 05:04:32 PM »
at Least I have a picture of a tern  ;)

Nice shot Beancounter.

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« Reply #2142 on: August 03, 2013, 05:39:45 PM »
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2143 on: August 03, 2013, 05:40:57 PM »
IslanderMV,

Love your great photos and your sharp wit. Well done. :)
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2144 on: August 03, 2013, 06:03:57 PM »
I think his bird just took a tern for the worse. :o
Nice!

@Northstar - Love watching them catch large fish.

Here is a 'side portrait' of a Greylag Goose, now something of a resident now at one of the local lakes.  I'm thinking about trying to recreate this with my 100mm macro lens but pretty sure that will involve some enticement.

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