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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2115 on: August 03, 2013, 05:49:48 AM »
One more from today. 7D, 100-400L @400mm, f/5.6, handheld, cropped.

from Wikipedia:
The Red-whiskered Bulbul (Pycnonotus jocosus) is a passerine bird found in Asia. It is a member of the bulbul family. It is a resident frugivore found mainly in tropical Asia. It has been introduced in many tropical areas of the world where populations have established themselves. It feeds on fruits and small insects and they conspicuously perch on trees and their calls are a loud three or four note call. The distinctive crest and the red-vent and whiskers makes them easy to identify.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2116 on: August 03, 2013, 05:53:53 AM »
Found this this morning.
Shot with a Kodak Brownie SIX-20 when I was 8 years old.
Developed by my uncle and printed by myself 45 years ago.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2117 on: August 03, 2013, 09:47:35 AM »
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2118 on: August 03, 2013, 09:58:21 AM »
Found this this morning.
Shot with a Kodak Brownie SIX-20 when I was 8 years old.
Developed by my uncle and printed by myself 45 years ago.

ok...i stared at this for a bit and I'm not really sure of what I'm looking at, what is it?
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2119 on: August 03, 2013, 10:20:41 AM »
Found this this morning.
Shot with a Kodak Brownie SIX-20 when I was 8 years old.
Developed by my uncle and printed by myself 45 years ago.

ok...i stared at this for a bit and I'm not really sure of what I'm looking at, what is it?
I had the same question. There seem to be some bones...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2120 on: August 03, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »
Found this this morning.
Shot with a Kodak Brownie SIX-20 when I was 8 years old.
Developed by my uncle and printed by myself 45 years ago.

ok...i stared at this for a bit and I'm not really sure of what I'm looking at, what is it?
I had the same question. There seem to be some bones...

It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2121 on: August 03, 2013, 11:14:13 AM »
It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2122 on: August 03, 2013, 11:27:13 AM »
It is the skeleton of an old, dead bird. Rather morbid...

IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject. 

I agree.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2123 on: August 03, 2013, 01:18:37 PM »
I use Canon 5D MK II and Canon EF 600 mm. F/ 4.0 L IS USM  with Flash and Better Beamer, on Monopod :

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2124 on: August 03, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.

I'm willing to grant Atonegro some artistic license on this. 

I guess if we want to nitpick: "ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, past participle (used as a noun) of Old French portraire ‘portray’"

Oh, and a bit of Googling: http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/articles/e/egyptian_mummy_portraits.aspx

Yes, it's a portrait.


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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2125 on: August 03, 2013, 01:35:01 PM »
breakfast...
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and then as I'm so proudly examining the images i just took of the herron eating a sunny, this beautiful bald eagle swoops down and snatches a fish right in front of me and starts flying away (second pic) 
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2126 on: August 03, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »
IMO, 'portrait' implies a living subject.  Not that I'm squeamish about a few bones...not after eight years of teaching gross anatomy to medical students.

I'm willing to grant Atonegro some artistic license on this. 

I guess if we want to nitpick: "ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, past participle (used as a noun) of Old French portraire ‘portray’"

Oh, and a bit of Googling: http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/articles/e/egyptian_mummy_portraits.aspx

Yes, it's a portrait.

What kind of cameras did they use in 16th century France?  Oh, and from your link: "This has proved that the portrait did indeed show the person as they appeared during life."

I like picking nits...   ;)
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2127 on: August 03, 2013, 02:30:09 PM »
What kind of cameras did they use in 16th century France?
Dude, you're too smart and thoughtful for this kind of argument: if the skeleton had been painted rather than photographed would that have transformed it into a legitimate portrait in your estimation?  Painted portrait or photographed portrait are irrelevant.  What's important is that it "portrays."

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Oh, and from your link: "This has proved that the portrait did indeed show the person as they appeared during life."
I almost addressed this in my original post, but figured you wouldn't go for the obvious fallacy: your original statement was that a portrait should portray a "living subject."  The mummy portraits were painted after the death of the subject, and therefore portray a deceased subject.  If we take your argument regarding the mummy portraits, then a photo of a taxidermied bird could be a portrait because it represents what the bird would have looked like in life.  However, my example only addressed your need for a living subject.  It would have been more legitimate on your part to argue that a bird skeleton is not a bird, but that's a different question.

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Can be a fun, social game since we all have nits.  At least that's what I've learned from gorillas and chimps.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2127 on: August 03, 2013, 02:30:09 PM »

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« Reply #2128 on: August 03, 2013, 03:04:19 PM »
Quote from: Wikipedia
A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person, in which the face and its expression is predominant. The intent is to display the likeness, personality, and even the mood of the person. For this reason, in photography a portrait is generally not a snapshot, but a composed image of a person in a still position. A portrait often shows a person looking directly at the painter or photographer, in order to most successfully engage the subject with the viewer.

What's the 'mood' of the dead bird?  How well does a dead subject engage with the viewer?

I suppose a portrait is in the eyes of the artist and viewer.  As the viewer, I don't think the bird skeleton was a portrait, any more than the drawings and photos in my bookcase full of anatomical atlases.
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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2129 on: August 03, 2013, 04:40:54 PM »
I suppose a portrait is in the eyes of the artist and viewer.

Agreed.  The reason I poked you about your comment is that the poster had brought out a memory of his childhood, an image that seemed to have inspired his future photography, and then presented it on the most appropriate forum he found here.  I concede that it's in the gray area for a portrait; but it was heartfelt, and not a troll.  And it was kinda funny too.  Your comment struck me as petty, which your posts usually aren't.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #2129 on: August 03, 2013, 04:40:54 PM »