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Jack Douglas

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15510 on: February 12, 2018, 12:13:34 PM »
I wonder if that private messaging attachment issue could be modified?  It seems very restrictive.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15510 on: February 12, 2018, 12:13:34 PM »

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15511 on: February 12, 2018, 01:01:29 PM »
Well, and few from today...

And now, I may sound harsh to some guys but my problem is the last pic: I have seen many comments claiming "why the DR matters that much, those are guys that don't know how to take the right exposure". My opinion - there is no brand that can offer a sensor with really high DR (well, on other hand the bird was looking completely black to my eyes)! The differences between the brands are not significant enough to make a difference in situation like this (huh, I would like the experts that are saying "DR doesn't matter" taking pictures next to me - and really better once!!!
I love the composition, I love everything in this picture... but not the picture quality (+2EV when taken, harsh PP in DxO PL after that, but no local adjustments - simply because they are not going to make any real difference!).


Another very nice series. I especially like the Chestnut Mannikin. Well done.  :)

Thanks Click! I hope you are joking about your preference ???
I'm attaching two older pics - there you can see the bird (in the typical "plump" configuration).

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15512 on: February 12, 2018, 02:05:40 PM »

Another very nice series. I especially like the Chestnut Mannikin. Well done.  :)

Thanks Click! I hope you are joking about your preference ???
I'm attaching two older pics - there you can see the bird (in the typical "plump" configuration).


Joking? Not at all.

I really prefer this picture.


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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15513 on: February 12, 2018, 02:12:33 PM »
But now, I prefer this one.


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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15514 on: February 12, 2018, 09:51:00 PM »
American Oysercatcher catching a... crab!

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15515 on: February 12, 2018, 09:54:30 PM »
Very nice shot, clbayley.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15516 on: February 12, 2018, 10:05:15 PM »
Thanks as always, Click.

And here is a rim lit Brown Pelican at sunset...Loreto, Mexico.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15516 on: February 12, 2018, 10:05:15 PM »

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15517 on: February 13, 2018, 12:14:56 AM »
clbayley, very nice, especially the last lighting.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15518 on: February 13, 2018, 09:28:09 PM »
Great Egret, striking a pose...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15519 on: February 13, 2018, 09:37:32 PM »
Huh? I just found that in "private messaging" I can't send an attachment (still learning the site).
Here you have the original JEPG file (the NEF is to much big) after downgrading in PS.
The second one is with +2EV correction.

You don't have a "DR problem" your subject is grossly underexposed, you really need to shoot manual or use EC with focus point linked spot metering. Also what little light is falling on your subject has absolutely zero contrast so the tonal range within the subjects dark brown to black plumage is minimal.

But please PM me a link to a dropbox of the NEF, I'd love to play with it.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15520 on: February 13, 2018, 10:28:24 PM »
And here is a rim lit Brown Pelican at sunset...Loreto, Mexico.

CB

Great Egret, striking a pose...


Beautiful pictures. I especially like the Brown Pelican.  Well done, clbayley.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15521 on: February 14, 2018, 03:56:39 AM »
Huh? I just found that in "private messaging" I can't send an attachment (still learning the site).
Here you have the original JEPG file (the NEF is to much big) after downgrading in PS.
The second one is with +2EV correction.

You don't have a "DR problem" your subject is grossly underexposed, you really need to shoot manual or use EC with focus point linked spot metering. Also what little light is falling on your subject has absolutely zero contrast so the tonal range within the subjects dark brown to black plumage is minimal.

But please PM me a link to a dropbox of the NEF, I'd love to play with it.

Sorry for the late answer!
"Would you take advice from a cartoons stuffed toy?" - I would take an advise even from the devil if it works in photography;)!
But seriously: it was opportunistic shooting - like roll the wheel to plus, burst, roll again, burst and it's over. It just happen to have +1EV after the first roll and +2 after the second. To switch from center-weighted to spot would be easier/faster (and more effective)- agree with you... lack of skills or most probably fast reaction/thinking (I came to super telelens- from 105 mm macro, where the spot metering was nearly every-time). I don't know what exactly do you mean with the last sentence, but if you send me personal message with e-mail address I have no problem to send you the NEF file (I'm old school boy, but you hardly can expect something else from 60++ old guy).

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15522 on: February 14, 2018, 04:09:05 AM »
And to avoid sending messages without photos - few old ones: the first two where somewhat kind of message that I eventually can do it (from macro to telephoto/birds, took me 4-5 months to that point). The last 3 are from the last summer.
The Common Mynas are the hooligans in the local bird's world. Very smart and funny but rude to the smaller...

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15522 on: February 14, 2018, 04:09:05 AM »

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15523 on: February 14, 2018, 05:03:13 AM »
Oh to have access to the birds that ISv does! ;)

I'm sometimes found grumbling about not having the MPs of the 5D4.  Perhaps I should be happy to have pretty good high ISO capability.  This shot I could do some selective NR to improve but as is, it shows what ISO 12500 looks like when I don't have to crop too much.  400 X2

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15524 on: February 14, 2018, 08:07:52 PM »
Here is a tiny Verdin from Mexico.  Very pretty bird.

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Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Reply #15524 on: February 14, 2018, 08:07:52 PM »