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I am reading up a lot on this, preparing for purchasing a 7D classic, and everyone seems to agree that the 18mp APS-C sensor is capable of excellent results, providing it is paired with a "good enough lens".

So, my question is: Which lenses ARE good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor?

Lots of answers are: "L mark II"

So, is it only L mark II that are "good enough" for 7D? Where do you draw the line? At L-glass?
Is the 85mm f1.8 good enough? The 70-300 non-L? the 17-40L?

If someone had a list of "good enough" lenses, I would (and I think others too) appreciate it a lot. Especially where to draw the line. L mark II are WAY out of my budget, so lets set the limit to 1000$.

Which lenses are good enough (sharp and resolving power) for the 18mp APS-C sensor, below 1000$?

Come on! Give me some nice recommendations! (3rd party is fine too) :)


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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 06:04:28 AM »
I am reading up a lot on this, preparing for purchasing a 7D classic, and everyone seems to agree that the 18mp APS-C sensor is capable of excellent results, providing it is paired with a "good enough lens".

So, my question is: Which lenses ARE good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor?

Lots of answers are: "L mark II"

So, is it only L mark II that are "good enough" for 7D? Where do you draw the line? At L-glass?
Is the 85mm f1.8 good enough? The 70-300 non-L? the 17-40L?

If someone had a list of "good enough" lenses, I would (and I think others too) appreciate it a lot. Especially where to draw the line. L mark II are WAY out of my budget, so lets set the limit to 1000$.

Which lenses are good enough (sharp and resolving power) for the 18mp APS-C sensor, below 1000$?

Come on! Give me some nice recommendations! (3rd party is fine too) :)
Canon 17-55 f/2.8 IS
Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC (bought it from Amazon Japan for $1049, about 11 days ago)
Sigma 150-500 OS (if you want long zoom range)
Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 (the new version ... its around $740 ... there is alson an older version, which I used to have, it sells for around $600)
I've used all of the above lenes with 7D (which I had till September 2012 ... sold 7D + 17-55 f/2.8 IS to fund 5D MKIII ... sold the 11-16 a couple of years ago ... still have the 24-70 VC & 150-500 OS) ... for about $1000 or less IMHO I think those lenses are great.
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 07:22:56 AM »
You did not specify what style of photography you are focusing on. So here are some general ideas: I own all these lenses and use a t2i.

1) Tamron 17-50 Non VC - great general purpose.

2) Canon 15-85 wider range, more expensive general purpose option.

3) Canon 50 1.4 excellent affordable portrait lens for 7d.

4) Canon 60mm EFS macro + portrait combo lens.

5) Samyang 14mm wide angle

For 1,000 USD I would get numbers 1 + 3 above - you will have change.
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 07:26:17 AM »
Ah, that is the point. I did not put style of photography in there on purpose. This list could be used for everyone. So you can suggest good UWAs, Macros, Tilt-shifts, Teles, zooms, primes, well whatever you feel is "good enough"!

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 07:39:19 AM »
My favorite lens for indoor / sideline sports on the 7D = 135/2 L  -- just at $1000

Otherwise,  I really like the 40 / 2.8 for budget all-purpose walkarounds
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 08:01:54 AM »
I've used the following lenses with great success on a 7D.
All are <$1000:

EF 35mm f/2
EF 50mm f/1.4
EF 85mm f/1.8
EF 100mm f/2.8
EF 100mm f/2.8 IS
EF 135mm f/2
EF 24-105mm f/4 IS
EF 70-200mm f/4 IS (used/ refurb to get below 1k)

Samyang 8mm f/3.5 fish-eye
Samyang 14mm f/2.8
Samyang 35mm f/1.4
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 08:06:12 AM »
My favorite lens' for both aps-c and full frame have become the 24-105L and 100L macro.

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 08:08:25 AM »
I have the Canon 7D, and hands down the most used lens on it is my Canon 15-85mm. Great image quality, superbly handy zoom range, and the USM focus and IS are real bonuses to have/ use. Build quality is also above most consumer lenses, eg the 17-55mm.  My strong recommendation is the Canon 15-85mm.  It's not a specialist lens, but as it sounds like  you don't have many lenses for APS-C yet... that would be my 'go to' recommendation.

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 08:14:24 AM »
Good walk-around 18-135 IS STM(second version, not only IS).
Good prime - depends is you want wide - new Sigma 30 1.4, normal -  Canon/Sigma 50 1.4 or tele - Canon 85 1.8.

18-135, 85 1.8 and 40 2.8 could be great combo too ;)

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 08:46:47 AM »
The Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM is an excellent choice. Refurbished it is in your price range, and new only slightly above. If it wasn't an EF-S it just might have a red ring on it, it is that good.

Other good choices: EF-S 15-85, EF 70-200 f/4 (with or without IS), and many, many more.
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 08:48:28 AM »
Try not to get hung up on stats, others opinions, self-image, or pixel peeping.
What do you want to do with your photos?

No lens got worse with the intro of an 18mp sensor.  The L IIs are certainly good but very expensive.  Pros made a living with L Is, and even non-Ls, for a very long time.  They printed large too.  Remember the days of film and slides projecting at, what, 3.5x5 feet?

Pixel peeping is good for comparing lenses, printing very large, or heavy cropping.  Normal sized prints will be just fine with most lenses.

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 09:11:55 AM »
Pixel peeping is good for comparing lenses, printing very large, or heavy cropping.  Normal sized prints will be just fine with most lenses.

+1

If you're going to take two photos, one with a lens like the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II @ 85mm f/4 and one with the 85mm f/1.8 @ f/4, print them both at 30x45", hang them side-by-side on your wall and ask people to compare them, you'd better buy the 70-200 II. 

If you're just going to take pictures, get the lenses that are suitable focal lengths for your needs and that fit your budget, and go take pictures.
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 09:37:03 AM »
Canon lens recommendations from The Digital Picture:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/
5DM3 | 50 f/1.2L | 100 f/2.8L MACRO IS | 16-35 f/2.8L II | 24-105 f/4 IS | 70-200 f/2.8L IS II | 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS | 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 09:53:59 AM »
Which lens is good enough for a 7D?  All of them, any of them.  A lens does not have to be perfect to be magical.

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 10:01:00 AM »
These are reasonably priced lenses I've used on a crop and have been satisfied with.


Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8  To quote Roger Cicala (LensRentals)..."The Tammy is the best lens nobody knows about, and possibly the best bang-for-the-buck of any camera lens— period."

I very much agree and have used it on 40D and 60D, this would be my first recommendation. 

Tokina 11-16/2.8  I have the older version, it spends a lot of time on my cameras.  Aperture ring is easily de-clicked for video if that's your fancy.  While quite good, the MkII is a bit better.

A must-have is the 50/1.8  Cheap and functional.  Just get it.  With some Kenko closeup rings you'll have macro at a good price point.

RokSamBow 8mm fisheye    Cheap, fairly good.  Used often enough that I'm glad I have it but not so often that I'm willing to pay quite a bit more for a 'better' one.  Along those lines, the RokSamBow MF primes are optically pretty good.  AF and IS are important for some types of photography; not so critical for a hobbyist.

Sigma 70-200/2.8 APO  Several flavors exist, I bought mine used about 9 years ago and still use it quite a bit. 

On the tele end -

300/4L non-IS    Older, discontinued, very good wide open, amazing at f/4.5.  IMO Canon's best 'affordable' long lens.  They show up on FredMiranda once in a while, but not often.  Folks seem to just keep them, I know I will.

Sigma 400/5.6APO Macro  -  older, discontinued.  AF will work but aperture control will NOT with your 7D.  Known to develop a fungus problem if not well cared for.  I only include it because it is surprisingly sharp wide open, the macro ability is quite good and it is often available for well under $200.  I paid $120 and another $140 for cleaning.  It's big and heavy, but much better than the 70-200 with 2X extender.



One non-recommendation....
EF 28-135IS  Kit lens with 40D.  It works, IS is nice, but I've never been particularly happy with it.  Stiff zoom and beyond soft wide open.   



If you haven't done so already, head over to LensRentals and read 'Roger's take' on the lenses you're considering.  He seems to call it the way he sees it, no fanboy BS.  That was my basis for first renting then buying the Tamron 28-75.

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Re: What lenses are good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor? 1000$ limit :)
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