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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2013, 11:28:48 AM »
24mp x 10fps would require 1dx's pipeline so its highly unlikely, even 24x8 would be kinda farfetched but it might be forced if the competition steps up. That would drive the whole APS pro category to 2K pricerange across the brands and the signs sofar from both camps point to a more conservative generation, i guess we'll see..

Based on the interview of Maeda, I don't believe that he stated APS-C was going away. On the contrary, he explicitly stated they were indeed producing the successor to the 7D. As for the 7D II using the 1D X "pipeline"...why not? The 7D basically uses the 1D IV pipeline, with dual DIGIC chips and all that, with a higher resolution sensor. I don't really see the difference between the 18mp 7D/16mp 1D IV and a hypothetical 24mp 7D II/18mp 1D X scenario.

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2013, 11:32:26 AM »
A faster update? One suggestion from a known source is that Canon has loose plans to replace and/or update the EOS 5D Mark III quicker than the previous iterations.

Speculation:  The 7DII will have newer sensor technology.  The 6D has lower read noise than the 5DIII and the 1Dx has lower read noise than the 6D.  If the 7DII is even better, then the 5DIII will be looking very dated compared to the rest of the lineup in this area.  So they might want to put out a 5DIIIn or something with just a sensor update.

5DIIIn sounds intresting. So based on that tech the next "regular" replacement could benefit from an even more advanced sensor tech by sometime 2018. I wonder how much the initial price tag will rise related to these improvements compared to the 3.5k they asked for the original" 5D3... 8) Uh, but anyway the 5D3 will remain a very nice camera, did some low light AF tests yesterday and it was very snappy even at distant nightlights and some falling snow!
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2013, 11:54:10 AM »
All I know is how long will be waiting and waiting without actually being out there capturing frames? I bought a cheap second hand 1Ds III and just went off. If such a body appears in 2014, I will consider it for architectural and landscape work, till then, happy shooting away.

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2013, 12:23:42 PM »
Looking forward to the high mega pixel body :)

Me too!  I would love to be able to use my Canon lenses again.  Meanwhile I thinking of buying my second D800E.  I just love that camera.  I'm thinking of selling my D800 - any interest?

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2013, 12:33:34 PM »
It's good to know that the probability of a 7D Mark II being released is increasing, but the possible replacement of the 5D Mark III? That would just upset many people.

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2013, 01:21:49 PM »
Two things.

1. APS-C cameras are Canon's profit center. Why does Canon refuse to support these customers with new EF-S primes. I own a EF-S 10-22mm, but would buy 10mm (16mmFF), 17mm (27mmFF) and 22mm (36mmFF) if they were available at f/1.4 or f/1.8.

2. I'm much more likely to buy a 31 megapixel Medium Format Digital than a 40 megapixel Canon.

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2013, 01:43:38 PM »
I know we have camps here on whether our current lens resolutions are adquate to meet 40+ MP.

Some of the superteles that were recently redesigned were done with that thought at the forefront of their mind and will do well with the higher resolution sensors. More recent version "II" zooms including the 24-70 II and 70-200 II ... will be fine.

I am not so sure about some of the older legacy L's, let alone consumer EF's.

I am not saying every single one of the older lenses lag behind, I think most do. I think 135L will be fine, but certainly 35L, 50L, and sadly perhaps even the somewhat recent 24L II will not fare so well on high MP sensors.

So it is good to see the acknowledgement in the CR post (if it is truly from Canon) that some of their lenses will have to be updated to meet the high MP sensor demands.

Again, I know some feel most key lenses out-resolve planned sensors... I feel only on paper is such a contention true. Canon will quietly start upgrading their key primes...35L II and some form of 50mm are probably imminent.
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2013, 02:44:03 PM »
2. I'm much more likely to buy a 31 megapixel Medium Format Digital than a 40 megapixel Canon.

well some people are happy with just one AF point and the "speed" of a MF camera.
if you are soley a studio shooter MF is maybe the way to go anyway.

others would love a speedy (relative) 30-45 MP DSLR with a great autofocus system.

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2013, 03:15:59 PM »
+1 because the actual model is the S___

Gimme my 45mm TS-E L !!!

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2013, 03:21:41 PM »
I hope that Canon could create a better sensor with more and more usable dynamic range.

With Nikon when you recover the shadows from a contrasty RAW file you don't get an annoying banding like in Canon,you guys should have a look at this example taken with the Nikon D800:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/photographyforrealestate/discuss/72157629365755068/

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2013, 03:56:47 PM »
please put in an EVF :)

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2013, 06:42:44 PM »
well some people are happy with just one AF point and the "speed" of a MF camera.
if you are soley a studio shooter MF is maybe the way to go anyway.

For studio table-top I use either a Canon 1Ds2 or a Canon 5D2. For full page magazine ads either works well.

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others would love a speedy (relative) 30-45 MP DSLR with a great autofocus system.
And I'd love a 16 megapixel APS-C camera with a sensor equal to or better than a Sony DX chip :) Different stroles for different folks ;)

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2013, 07:30:35 PM »
well david noton is a professionell landscape photographer... what does that say?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Noton_(photographer)


I could say Canon "helps" him out for saying things that toe the line?
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 07:53:06 PM »
please put in an EVF :)

Oh dear god no!!! EVF = blocky, blotchy, gritty, grainy, posterized crapiness! Even the best of the best EVFs that offer 2600ppi are junk. Until EVFs are pumping out at least 5000ppi, preferably more (12,000ppi for people with 20/10 vision in a mirrorless-sized viewfinder box at 11mm eye relief), they aren't worth it. Until they offer 20 stops of DR, they aren't worth it. Until they have instantaneous update, no grain or banding in low light, and are gigantic in dimensions...they aren't worth it. Give me an OVF any day and I'll take it over an EVF. The addition of an EVF to any DSLR (note, DSLR...different from a mirrorless) would end my use of any brand that does that. A DSLR is an OPTICAL camera, keep it that way!!! People who like all their instantaneous, real-time, real-world optical bliss should not be forced to use an EVF because of the mirrorless mob.

Leave the EVFs to a whole new, separate, distinct, unique line of mirrorless cameras so people have a choice. Don't interfere with the tried and true, working great, ergonomically exquisite DSLR. PLEASE, OH GOD PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU, don't let Canon put an EVF into a DSLR.    :o

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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 08:38:18 PM »
"I'm much more likely to buy a 31 megapixel Medium Format Digital than a 40 megapixel Canon."

Probably an obvious answer, but shooting in a studio what would be the benefit of MF over a high-megapixel Canon? Wouldn't the Canon be able to print even larger than MF if there are more pixels?
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Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 08:38:18 PM »