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1D X - Clean HDMI out
« on: February 08, 2013, 05:34:15 AM »
Now that we know that the 5D Mark III will be getting clean uncompressed HDMI by April 2013, I think it's time Canon also confirms this feature also will be made available for us who chose to spend even more money on buying the 1D X.

I work with both stills and video, and I bought the 1DX for it's extra low light performance and DR over the 5D3.

Given what we now know, that the much cheaper 5D3 will get clean HDMI out, it will be absolutely unacceptable if the 1DX does not get the same upgrade!! We know it is possible since the 1DC already have this option on 1080p footage.

So I really hope Canon would please give us who spend all our money on them, what we want!!

It would be remarkable if the 1DC and the 5D3 should have clean HDMI out, and the 1DX would not!!
This would mean Canon would try to force me to sell my house to get the ISO and DR performance on video of the 1DX through the 1DC. Which of course will not happen!

A faster and cheaper solution may be to just buy the Nikon D4!

Your thoughts?

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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 06:12:26 AM »
Not that I use clean hdmi, but I completely agree with your logics and I was very surprised that the 5d3 had this added in firmware and nothing about it for the 1d x.
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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 08:37:23 AM »
Not that I use clean hdmi, but I completely agree with your logics and I was very surprised that the 5d3 had this added in firmware and nothing about it for the 1d x.

Yeah thats what I mean, it is not logic if it stays that way.

Clean HDMI for the 1DX NOW !!!

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 10:14:11 AM »
I agree with your logics as well, given the fact that the 1Dx not only is a workhorse for press togs, as videography is becoming the "new" medium to do one's job. So I hope for every journalist out there, to get updated with this, as the 1Dx is almost double the price of a 5D3. "Crippling down" things in this sense would be an unhappy move.
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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 07:23:59 AM »
yes!
me too!

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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 07:16:22 PM »
Bad news. I bought a 1dx as I'd asked canon directly if it will get the firmware in April. They told me yes. So I then bought the 1dx and called them again to ask when. They sent me a message that they made a mistake. A day later canon called me to apologise. They said the 1dx is too close to the 1dc so they will not release it. If we want hdmi and video features be the 1dc. I complained and told them that this was not good enough. That the 1dx was in fact marketed as a video device. It was the pinnacle of dslr shooting right up to the 1dc came out. So they offered me a full refund. But assured me there will be no firmware update.

I am holding out to hope that research dept don't speak to sales and that we might see the release in April. It would be a real shame not to. However it's low light is simply astounding to the 5d mk 2 and 3 - still a deal breaker for me even with the price hike.

And omg is the stills super crisp Witt the fast burst and af drive...

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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 07:31:46 PM »
I agree with your logics as well, given the fact that the 1Dx not only is a workhorse for press togs, as videography is becoming the "new" medium to do one's job. So I hope for every journalist out there, to get updated with this, as the 1Dx is almost double the price of a 5D3. "Crippling down" things in this sense would be an unhappy move.

I agree with the logic that the 1DX should get clean HDMI out, but at the same time I highly doubt any on the go or fast, compact photo journalist will use the HDMI out. The built-in recording to CF is probably, in general, plenty good quality for a quick hand-held, or monopod video usage.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 07:31:46 PM »

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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 02:01:06 AM »
I think the Cinema DSLR line was a bad mistake. They had a revolution with regular DSLR video by now they are cripple city and then $$$$ Cinema DSLR which doesn't make them stand out as much and take over the market.


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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 12:41:49 PM »
I think the Cinema DSLR line was a bad mistake. They had a revolution with regular DSLR video by now they are cripple city and then $$$$ Cinema DSLR which doesn't make them stand out as much and take over the market.

They had a big surprise when they introduced that, especially on the 5d2. However, it may have started to eat into their higher end video sales, which are both generally higher quality (especially lenses) and more profitable. So they decided they'll charge what the market can bear for a DSLR format video camera, instead of looking a bit closer at the target market and pricing it more like a top end DSLR for the high end of the VSDLR cameras (ala C500). If the C500 was more like $10K-12K, and the C100 was closer to $4k with the rest scaling up in the middle, then they might very well have something.

The Cinema lens prices...there's some extra padding there, but a top quality video lens (no focus breathing among other things) is tough and expensive, so those prices are more in line with other lens prices elsewhere for similar quality.
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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 02:55:20 PM »
Bad news. I bought a 1dx as I'd asked canon directly if it will get the firmware in April. They told me yes. So I then bought the 1dx and called them again to ask when. They sent me a message that they made a mistake. A day later canon called me to apologise. They said the 1dx is too close to the 1dc so they will not release it. If we want hdmi and video features be the 1dc. I complained and told them that this was not good enough. That the 1dx was in fact marketed as a video device. It was the pinnacle of dslr shooting right up to the 1dc came out. So they offered me a full refund. But assured me there will be no firmware update.

I am holding out to hope that research dept don't speak to sales and that we might see the release in April. It would be a real shame not to. However it's low light is simply astounding to the 5d mk 2 and 3 - still a deal breaker for me even with the price hike.

And omg is the stills super crisp Witt the fast burst and af drive...

I'm not yet sold that the clean HDMI out will matter for a lot of applications, but if I owned a 1DX, I'd still be pretty aggravated by this news. That said, Canon reps also swore up and down that the 5D Mark III's hardware was incapable of supporting a clean HDMI output--claims we now know to be hogwash. Thus, if Canon is indeed assuring users there will be no firmware update, I'm suspicious. The 1DX isn't that close to the 1DC in terms of live features, and clean HDMI on the 1DX shouldn't threaten the more expensive option. the 1DX would still lack 4K, Canon log, Super 35mm crop... If a 5d Mark III with clean HDMI out isn't going to cannibalize 1DC sales, I don't see why a firmware-enhanced 1DX would do that trick. Sounds suspect.
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Re: 1D X - Clean HDMI out
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 02:55:20 PM »