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How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:05:47 PM »
I just bought a Rokinon Fisheye for $300 from Amazon.  It's about 30 bucks cheaper than it normally sells for, and while I'd like to get it cheaper than I did, I've been wanting a fisheye to play with for a while. 

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But I'm composing shots in my mind (before I have the lens in hand) and I guess my question is, do yall bother following the rule of thirds when you are using a fisheye?  Do yall shoot your subject in the center of the frame so there is minimal distortion, and then recompose in post and place the subject along the third?

I'm excited to have a new toy, but my concern is that I don't like wide angle photography as I have presently experienced it (18-55mm kit lens and @ 24mm with my 24-105) all on a crop sensor 60D.  So I realize that doesn't really qualify as wide angle since it is 24-35ish respectively. 

But again... kinda excited to have a new toy to try and figure out.  I'm ok with the manual aperture and I'm ok with it being soft at f/3.5 since I plan on shooting at f/5.6 to f/8.  And I'm ok with it being all manual focus, though it really shouldn't matter much considering 8mm naturally has a large depth of field. 
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How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:05:47 PM »

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 11:25:02 PM »
Rule #1: Compose with {your/your tripod's} feet out of the picture.

Rule #2: Don't follow any other rules, compose how you like. Break rule #1 if you want.
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 12:20:00 AM »
Rule #1: Compose with {your/your tripod's} feet out of the picture.

Rule #2: Don't follow any other rules, compose how you like. Break rule #1 if you want.

Thanks, but I do believe in the rules of composition.  I understand that "artists" look to break rules, but I don't want to lose an opportunity because I felt like being different and different was just ehhh.
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 12:56:01 AM »
Fish eyes photos are tough they either really work and are stunning, or they don't and are "blah" at best. That's sort of why I never had the urge to ever buy one. I think I may have 2-3 fish eye images taken in the last 10 years I'd say I really like. That being said I do like to rent one from time to time. The rokinon though is a great deal and I'm sure you will have fun with it. Don't worry about the rules, they are meant to be broken.

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 01:21:06 AM »
I never follow any rules with a fisheye... and I admit I am totally addicted to mine :) In the beginning I would over think how to line everything up, now I just look through the viewfinder trying to compose the large items, the horizon and converging lines within the frame nicely. Also, depending on the distortion needed... I can frame my rectilinear lens with a lttle tilt. This can really exaggerate the perspective, creating a unique view.

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 01:47:30 AM »
I find that the "rule of thirds" is inappropriate for a fisheye. It's more a case of look through the viewfinder and see what works with the subject. Keeping your feet and fingers out of the frame can be harder than it sounds. Don't be afraid to experiment - take lots of images and trash the garbage.

I've found that getting very close to the subject can produce interesting perspective distortion.

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 10:28:21 PM »
Fish eyes photos are tough they either really work and are stunning, or they don't and are "blah" at best. That's sort of why I never had the urge to ever buy one. I think I may have 2-3 fish eye images taken in the last 10 years I'd say I really like. That being said I do like to rent one from time to time. The rokinon though is a great deal and I'm sure you will have fun with it. Don't worry about the rules, they are meant to be broken.
That's my concern as well.  I'll have a lens that I never use but have just in case I feel like being artsy... but it is better to have it than not have it. 

And I'll say that really stunning photos have actually ruined me as a photographer, because I try and get everything so right that I have a higher rate of stunning, but in actuality, I'm taking less photos than I did when I had a point and shoot.  It's kinda weird.
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 10:47:51 PM »
I also just got a 15 mm fisheye, but on my 5d3, the image does not fill the frame. In post with the LR lens profile, I seem to lose quite a bit of the image during cropping. Any suggestions?
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 11:21:43 PM »
I also just got a 15 mm fisheye, but on my 5d3, the image does not fill the frame. In post with the LR lens profile, I seem to lose quite a bit of the image during cropping. Any suggestions?

Sorry but I am afraid that you are incorrect. The Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye Lens is for full-frame cameras and the image circle completely fills the frame of a 5D Mark III as it is a full-frame camera.

The thing with a fisheye is that you do not use it often...but when you see the shot...nothing else will work!!!...that is the fun and the challenge....the lens makes YOU hunt for the image that does the lens justice! It's not for everyone.....but I love mine!
I shot this with my MFT fisheye...(yes...I own two! Lol!)

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 10:54:49 PM »
I also just got a 15 mm fisheye, but on my 5d3, the image does not fill the frame. In post with the LR lens profile, I seem to lose quite a bit of the image during cropping. Any suggestions?

Sorry but I am afraid that you are incorrect. The Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye Lens is for full-frame cameras and the image circle completely fills the frame of a 5D Mark III as it is a full-frame camera.

The thing with a fisheye is that you do not use it often...but when you see the shot...nothing else will work!!!...that is the fun and the challenge....the lens makes YOU hunt for the image that does the lens justice! It's not for everyone.....but I love mine!
I shot this with my MFT fisheye...(yes...I own two! Lol!)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6790974944_e8ddb4a860_b.jpg

It's grainy, but i like it.
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 11:54:59 PM »
I am not sure that those are great examples, but here are a few. I am still learning how to use this lens.






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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 12:09:44 AM »
what is everyones opinion on the IQ from this lens? I'm thinking of getting one for the EOS-M
this can be had for as low as $269 on Ebay brand new!
it'd still have to use the adapter though
I wonder if they will release a version with EF-M mount

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 12:24:36 AM »
Like this:


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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 01:07:24 AM »
Like this:


Fishy Snow by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


Kensington's Backyard by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


692A9981 by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


692A9581 by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


692A0309 by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


692A0321 by Jesse Herzog, on Flickr


nice shot on the last one.  Canon 8-15?  Too expensive though for me... :(

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Re: How do yall compose a shot using a fisheye lens?
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