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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 05:13:30 PM »
Better yet...just buy an Olympus OMD ...it actually focuses, has a viewfinder and lots of small fast primes AND zooms?
TODAY!  8)

Yes, but OM-D lacks a certain criteria essential to many of this forum...it is not a Canon...  ;D
But I do agree. Although I would rather have the Panasonic GF form factor (as small as possible).
That is also why I would like more pancake lenses.

Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 05:13:30 PM »

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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 04:06:05 PM »
Better yet...just buy an Olympus OMD ...it actually focuses, has a viewfinder and lots of small fast primes AND zooms?
TODAY!  8)

Yes, but OM-D lacks a certain criteria essential to many of this forum...it is not a Canon...  ;D
But I do agree. Although I would rather have the Panasonic GF form factor (as small as possible).
That is also why I would like more pancake lenses.

Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(
The main advantage of M 4/3 is the smaller size. Long lenses defeats this idea. You can always mount a long lens with an adapter.
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 02:56:12 PM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(

300mm F/2?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=333503&Q=&is=REG&A=details

That's a 300mm lens?  Do you work for Panasonic's marketing department?   ::)
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 03:00:55 PM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(

300mm F/2?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=333503&Q=&is=REG&A=details

That's a 300mm lens?  Do you work for Panasonic's marketing department?   ::)

If you count the Crop factor, sure why not? afterall, 300mm FOV isn't that tele.  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 03:46:30 PM »
If you count the Crop factor, sure why not? afterall, 300mm FOV isn't that tele.

Ah...so crop factor applied to focal length, not just FoV?  You must be in some weird, Star Trek-ian mirrored universe where the normal laws of optical physics don't apply.  Say "Hi" to evil Mr. Spock while you're there...
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 04:15:03 PM »
If you count the Crop factor, sure why not? afterall, 300mm FOV isn't that tele.

Ah...so crop factor applied to focal length, not just FoV?  You must be in some weird, Star Trek-ian mirrored universe where the normal laws of optical physics don't apply.  Say "Hi" to evil Mr. Spock while you're there...

Just imagine a world where 35mm didn't exist and only M4/3 did. Then we'd all be saying how 150mm is very tele and unless I'm mistaken, 150mm on m4/3 is pretty tele.

Context is important, but since everyone shoots 35mm, I just put it in those terms. Eh Neuro?

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 04:45:37 PM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(

300mm F/2?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=333503&Q=&is=REG&A=details
Sorry to spoil the interesting argument going on here, but isn't that a 4/3rds lens, not a native micro 4/3rds lens?
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2013, 04:02:52 AM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(

Actually, this is not true. Both Olympus and Panasonic have telephoto zooms for MFT. 75-300 and 100-300 respectively. Granted, they are not very bright, nor L class optics, but they DO exist.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/919786-REG/olympus_v315040bu000_m_zuiko_digital_ed_75_300mm.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/736369-REG/Panasonic_H_FS100300_Lumix_G_Vario_100_300mm.html

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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2013, 05:33:59 AM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(
99% (or more?) of long lens use is for sports or wildlife.  Micro 4/3 isn't quite there yet.  The AF systems, while improving, currently isn't suited to this.  For example, its very, very difficult to get a good bird in fight shot.  Most people who can get a decent shot are using old-school manual focus lenses with adapters.  But, the next OM-D should move things up a notch.  Panasonic are also promising something special.  Following that, I'd be surprised if none of the m43 lens manufacturers (and there are 20 or so companies involved) didn't release a decent 200mm (AKA 400mm) or 300mm (AKA 600mm) lens.  After all, the real interest in micro four thirds lenses is in fast primes.

Ignoring arguments about aperture equivalence and sensor noise, an M43 300mm/f4 is going to be a lot more affordable and easier to handhold and use than the Canon 600mm.
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2013, 02:23:37 AM »
Can any one post some images so that we can have a look over it to choose anyone lenses,As I'm the new one to discover this hobby i would be needing some advice from the experts for sure.
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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2013, 09:43:23 AM »
Unfortunatly, no long glass is available yet for micro 4/3 :(
99% (or more?) of long lens use is for sports or wildlife.  Micro 4/3 isn't quite there yet.  The AF systems, while improving, currently isn't suited to this.  For example, its very, very difficult to get a good bird in fight shot.  Most people who can get a decent shot are using old-school manual focus lenses with adapters.  But, the next OM-D should move things up a notch.  Panasonic are also promising something special.  Following that, I'd be surprised if none of the m43 lens manufacturers (and there are 20 or so companies involved) didn't release a decent 200mm (AKA 400mm) or 300mm (AKA 600mm) lens.  After all, the real interest in micro four thirds lenses is in fast primes.

Ignoring arguments about aperture equivalence and sensor noise, an M43 300mm/f4 is going to be a lot more affordable and easier to handhold and use than the Canon 600mm.

I think that cropping in photoshop is cheaper than buying a dedicate crop system just to have something smaller and easier to handhold. For example, cropping (or not) 6D+24-105L images vs. OMD+equivalent lens set (because it is lacking the not-cropping option) - which combo would cost and weight more? :)
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2013, 06:42:08 AM »
If you count the Crop factor, sure why not? afterall, 300mm FOV isn't that tele.

Ah...so crop factor applied to focal length, not just FoV?  You must be in some weird, Star Trek-ian mirrored universe where the normal laws of optical physics don't apply.  Say "Hi" to evil Mr. Spock while you're there...

Just imagine a world where 35mm didn't exist and only M4/3 did. Then we'd all be saying how 150mm is very tele and unless I'm mistaken, 150mm on m4/3 is pretty tele.

Context is important, but since everyone shoots 35mm, I just put it in those terms. Eh Neuro?

Funny how everyone is happy to convert the focal length to 35mm terms, but not the aperture... This would give you the equivalent of f/4 in 35mm terms.  Useful, but doesn't sound as good as the "300mm f/2" you quoted in your original post.  On top of that, as others have pointed out, the 150mm f/2 is "regular" 4/3rds and so on micro-4/3rds bodies, will focus even slower than the Canon M   ;D   

As CanNotYet points out, there are two native micro 4/3rds lenses that get to 300mm available; not only are these slow, optically they aren't that great at the long end. 

None of the mirrorless systems yet have compelling long lens options, which means that they lose appeal as DSLR replacements (as opposed to supplements) unless you can live with lenses below ~200mm (in 35mm equivalence  ;)). 

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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2013, 04:42:27 PM »
Ok, so I got myself a EOS-M "toy" yesterday, lets talk lenses - we have the following;
- 22mm - which is about a FFE of 35mm
- 18-55mm - which is about a FFE of 29-88mm

I'd like to see a few more, there has already been talk of a fast prime, a 55-300mm and a super tele, so what's coming and what would others like to see ?

Predicted;
- 55-300mm - I suspect this might be something less, perhaps a 55-200
- A fast prime ?  Maybe something like a 85mm - which is about a FFE of 135mm
- Supertele ?  Really ???  I just can't see this, maybe a 300mm ?

What would I like ?
- 15-85mm would be peachy

What about the rest of you ?

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Re: Future EOS-M Lenses
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2013, 04:46:07 PM »
More pancake lenses!
UWA primes, like 10mm, 14mm, 18mm.
Something like the pancake zoom that MFT has.

And Tamron will probably come with a native 17-250mm EOS-M 3.5-5.6 VC... :)

Better yet...just buy an Olympus OMD ...it actually focuses, has a viewfinder and lots of small fast primes AND zooms?
TODAY!  8)

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