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Re: Help Me Build My Lens Stable!
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2013, 08:53:08 AM »
Get a low cost FFbody  and invest in a good lens.  A 24-105mmL is a excellent start, so a 6D Kit might be the way to go.

I disagree. Now that there are some very excellent 24-70's, forget the 24-105 because at the wide end it is useless due to distortion.

The lens to get would be the Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC.

And add to it the Canon 17-40/4. Why this lens? Because the 16-35 isn't really that much better. It is faster, but still just as weak in the corners, etc, so you may as well save your pennies and buy the cheaper of the two.
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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2013, 11:16:01 AM »
I also highly recommend the 35L.
Awesome on a FF- Body.

Plenty of people are actually selling their 35L copies to purchase the new 35mm Sigma. I would highly recommend the Sigma instead of the 35L.

35mm is really great. I don't know why people prefer a 24mm lens when with the 35mm you actually place people in other spots than the middle. With a 24mm people will already start to turn into mutants.

yes I sold my 35L which was a good sharp copy..
the Sigma 35 1.4 is sharper wideopen than the Canon @ f2 or f2.8....

and cleaner too

and 35mm is - IMO - a more useful range than 50mm

so there you have a fast lens that is usable wide open.....
(delivers most of its sharpness / quality wideopen)

the 135 is also usable wideopen

16-35 II and 70-200 f4 I.S covers the rest of the needs...maybe a macro if you want that
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my fav set is 14L II, 35 sig, 135L f2

seems all you really need to add ... to your list...is the sig 35 1.4.

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Re: Help Me Build My Lens Stable!
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2013, 12:47:32 PM »


MAYBE a 600-RT but that likely comes last.

So...help me out. What would you change given my shooting tastes? Does the order of acquisition matter? I considered the 50L but I figured I'd have low light covered well and the difference in price nets me the L macro at a minimum.

Thanks in advance for all the help! If you want some degree of feel for what I shoot, visit www.rfaganphotography.com.



I know you are asking about lenses (lots of them and expensive ones) but what surprises me is that the flash is such an afterthought. I've come to love my speedlites and use them quite a bit nowadays. I looked at your web site (nice design by the way) and found that in the portrait section I would have shot 90% of those with some kind of flash- even if just to create some catch lights. Matter of taste of course and there are folks who strictly want to do "available light".

And just like that everything else is a matter of personal preferences. I like fast fast primes. Others like the flexibility of the god Canon zooms. Can't really go wrong either way. Or a mix of both. The two lenses I would never give up again are the 135 and the 50L. But that's me with a current main interest in people photography. For your landscape and wildlife work you clearly want something different.
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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »
Plenty of people are actually selling their 35L copies to purchase the new 35mm Sigma.
Where did you get this information?
+1 I do have a 35L 1.4 and I am not selling it. I am not interested in Sigma/Tokina/Tamron/etc...

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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2013, 01:22:31 PM »
What I'm looking at...

(sell 60D, 10-22, 70-200, keep 50 b/c why the hell not?)

5D III (toying with the 1D IV for build and speed but perhaps as a second body next year?)
5D III would be my choice! (In fact I do have it and I have not regretted it)

16-35 II (traveling, street, some landscape, group or environmental portraits even)
OK direct replacement of 10-22

70-200 2.8 IS II (everything...weddings, events, portrait, some closer wildlife)
Not so fast. You are coming from a lightweight set. Have you tried 70-200 2.8 IS II? It is heavy!
Plus, your 70-200 is an EXCELLENT lens.


135L (covers my portraits, some street stuff, events/stage stuff)
OK THIS IS PERFECT!

24 1.4L (not as good as the TS but it's more versatile. churches, markets, lowlight, astro)
As you said not so good as the TS. You can forget it for astro. It has HUGE coma!
http://www.lenstip.com/245.7-Lens_review-Canon_EF_24_mm_f_1.4L_II_USM_Coma_and_astigmatism.html


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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2013, 02:01:06 PM »
My 2 cents:

First I am coming from  a wildlife first perspective, that colors my choices. 

I would get the 70-200 f2.8 l ii and add a 2x converter, you get almost as good image quality as the 100-400 or 400L, and at a price of only the converter.  I think it will also work with your 135L.  Renting say a 300 f 2.8 L is 140 for 4 days if you do that 5x a year that's 700/year, doesn't take long to make ownership worth while.  And availability can be a problem if renting at least if wanting a spur of the moment trip.  I picked the 300 for reasons below.

If money is someday not a problem I love the 300 2.8 L ii is, it is light for a super, can be extended to 420 or 600 and is hand holdable and airline-able.
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2013, 02:26:28 PM »
Considering:
1. Price doesn't seem to be a huge factor (judging by your list)
2. Shoot a lot of portraits (mostly portraits?)

5DIII with 85mm 1.2 would absolutely be my first 2 purchases, no questions.  Next, the 70-200 2.8 IS II.  I've went through a lot of gear, I started fresh not too long ago doing mainly portraits and product/stock photos—and that is exactly the route I went and I'm very happy with the decision
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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2013, 10:11:20 PM »
See people have different preferences, some would be happy to take 70-200, 300, 400 and shoot all day, others perfer 16-35 and 14.

To get a all around set you can start with 16-35 and 70-200, then start adding primes later. No need to hurry in buying whole bunch of lenses only to find out you won't use half of them.
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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2013, 10:49:58 PM »
I disagree. Now that there are some very excellent 24-70's, forget the 24-105 because at the wide end it is useless due to distortion.

The lens to get would be the Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC.

The 24-105 is hardly useless, its a very good lens and a terrific value.  24mm is not its best focal length, but its very sharp with minimal distortion from 35mm up.  The Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC is a step up, but 30-40% more expensive.  Canon's 24-70 2.8 II is the best normal zoom, but expensive...
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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2013, 10:54:51 PM »

I disagree. Now that there are some very excellent 24-70's, forget the 24-105 because at the wide end it is useless due to distortion.


I don't have a very skilled eye when it comes to noticing distortion, but I hit the little button in Lightroom and boom... good bye distortion.  Though as I said... I don't have an eye for noticing it... so maybe it is still there. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Help Me Build My Lens Stable!
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2013, 01:19:27 AM »
So I'm making the switch to full frame, not all at once, but over the course of this year. I could use some feedback on my choices and the order I should be purchasing to maximize utility and versatility. I currently have a 60D, 10-22, 50 1.8 II, and 70-200 f/4 IS, and 430EX II.

I shoot a lot of portraits. I quite enjoy shooting wildlife and do so on several trips a year (though I am inclined to rent for that as needed). I enjoy landscape as well and while I consider it a priority, I don't know if I do so enough to warrant the 24 TS. I've also been working on starscapes and such. I travel quite a bit and take a fair bit of street stuff as well as finding myself in dim churches, museums, etc meaning I'd like some fast glass. Also macro. Lastly, while I haven't shot a wedding, I have done some events and performances and would like to make that a larger part of my shooting. I also may be gearing toward work as a PJ at some point soon.

What I'm looking at...

(sell 60D, 10-22, 70-200, keep 50 b/c why the hell not?)

5D III (toying with the 1D IV for build and speed but perhaps as a second body next year?)

16-35 II (traveling, street, some landscape, group or environmental portraits even)
70-200 2.8 IS II (everything...weddings, events, portrait, some closer wildlife)
135L (covers my portraits, some street stuff, events/stage stuff)
24 1.4L (not as good as the TS but it's more versatile. churches, markets, lowlight, astro)
100 Macro (L or not? IS can come in handy and its only a $240 difference, weather sealing is a selling point)
50 1.4 (better bokeh than the 1.8, which I'd keep as backup or lightweight setup)

MAYBE a 600-RT but that likely comes last.

So...help me out. What would you change given my shooting tastes? Does the order of acquisition matter? I considered the 50L but I figured I'd have low light covered well and the difference in price nets me the L macro at a minimum.

Thanks in advance for all the help! If you want some degree of feel for what I shoot, visit www.rfaganphotography.com.


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I think the 5DMKIII is a fine camera which will serve you YEARS.  Anything less and you may grow out of it fairly soon.

Get the 16-35 and forget the 24.  Really, how often do you think you'll need to go above f2.8?

I LOVE my 50mm lens and use it for almost everything.  A Generalist lens.  But anything you would be using it for could be covered by better lenses.  If portraits aren't a specialty of yours, you have other lenses here that will completely suffice.  So I say no to the 50mm.  Your current 50mm would be totally fine for general-type work.

Drop the 135L.  Unless you are in a big studio and shoot in it a lot, it's really too long for any other type of portraits.  Again, if you're not a specialist, other lenses you have here will suffice.

Drop the 100 Macro.

Get the 70-200 f2.8L II.  I debated this.  It's an expensive lens.  But it's super sharp and incredibly flexible.  You can use this lens as your portrait, wildlife AND event lens. The f4 version is REALLY good and if I had a 5D Mark III, I would get the f4.  But you might want the shallow DOF with the 2.8 for portraits.  f4 isn't enough.

I'd say rent the macro before buying.  You got enough to play with and learn for a while.  :-)

If you sell your current 70-200  and 10-22, you can get an easy $1100 total.  With that, you can buy a used 580EXII, couple of good lightstands and umbrellas and Phottix 2-receiver trigger system.  You have lots of options here.  I'd like to see three lights but again, you'll have plenty to keep you busy for a long time.  :-)

So with my recommendations, you'd save $3450 which would cover the cost of your new camera.  Okay, this was fun!
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Re: Help Me Build My Lens Stable!
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
Get the 6D and save $1000.  Keep the 50 f1.4 and the 70-200 f4is.  Buy the 24mm f2.8 and the 85mm f1.8 (when you sell the 10-22 you've paid for both of these) Buy the 600 flash if you need one with the money you save. 
Bank the rest and save it until you find out how this covers your shooting style.  You can sell either the 24 or
85 (or both) and buy the L versions when you're flush and if you need them.  Keep you eyes open for a new wide
zoom, an improved 35L, a tele-extender for the 70-200  and/or a second flash or whatever - including a second 6D or the next click on the full frame ride.

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